Comments on: Grixis Control Today: Fine-Tuning for the Meta https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:45:42 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tommy Hoff Hansen https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/#comment-2127101 Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:45:42 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12032#comment-2127101 I think the main problem with grixis is that it has simply been too established in the same old pattern for too long.

All decks need to split up into different types, so that at least one get’s to take out the curent meta.

I have a rogue build that I’ve tested against at least 43 different types of moderndecks, 3-4 month’s ago, and the things it draws seem to work, except that I’m a lousy player at tournaments, making too many hasty decisions, only to regret them seconds later.

It’s design is radically different from the usual grixis-lists, but it’s well-functioning, just a few month’s out of date.

http://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/modern-tournament-shriekers/

It might not be the better grixis design , but it has the surprise element going for it.

Regards, wickeddarkman.

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By: Michael Warme https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/#comment-2127100 Mon, 24 Oct 2016 01:48:29 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12032#comment-2127100 From what we saw of the Open today, I keep thinking there’s a “bigger” build of grixis, aligned more closely with the UWR “Flash” builds–playset of snaps, clique or two, one or two torrential gearhulks, bolt/sudden shock/terminate/slaughter pact/mana leak/spell snare/remand/electrolyze. Extractions and the sheer quantity of removal should make the matchups vs infect/affinity/dredge more than reasonable. Ancestral vision/snapcaster mage/creeping tar pit should make BGx do-able, especially post board. Combo should be fine post board with discard and countermagic; extractions also do double duty here as well. I just wonder what happens if grixis moves away from the more “proactive” build with tap out delve creatures and discard in favor of a more flash-centric gameplan, with instant speed removal and countermagic supplemented by discard and serum visions.

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By: Steve Betnér https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/#comment-2127099 Fri, 21 Oct 2016 16:27:34 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12032#comment-2127099 In reply to Jason Schousboe.

I agree. The art is amazing.

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By: Jason Schousboe https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/#comment-2127098 Fri, 21 Oct 2016 15:45:54 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12032#comment-2127098 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

Hm, that was in retrospect perhaps less than representative of the article. That was my bad. I largely chose it just because we’d used most of the stock Grixis cards by now and that Rebecca Guay art is amazing.

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/#comment-2127097 Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:58:53 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12032#comment-2127097 With the bitterblossom art on the main page and the top of the article here it was pretty disappointing to see single copy in the board at the big unveiling. I mean id be surprised for the card to shine in grixis control but I thought thats where the article was gonna go – the grixis lingering souls or some such.

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By: Zach Dionas https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/#comment-2127096 Fri, 21 Oct 2016 04:28:18 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12032#comment-2127096 What do you think of grixis twin?

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By: Gabriel Womack https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/#comment-2127095 Fri, 21 Oct 2016 03:37:48 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12032#comment-2127095 Hi! I’m Gabe and piloted the above mentioned delver list. I wish grixis could move away from delver due to the inherent variance but I feel like the potential upside of the threat of a blind flip combined with the mitigated downside of a lotus petal or actual land make it a necessity. I agree that delver decks win a large percentage of games without ever drawing the namesake card, however, if the color combination promotes interactivity, card advantage and power I would say spell pierce and gitaxian probe enable all of the above.

Grixis control is an idea that I have sketched many times as a former twin and blue moon pilot. I would love to jam Pia and Kira, Kalitas or even Liliana but in this format of 1 and 0 cmc threats you are dead before you resolve them. Grixis allows you to play your own 1 mana threats while giving you access to answers for every strategy.

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By: Chris Striker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/grixis-control-fine-tuning/#comment-2127094 Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:36:25 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12032#comment-2127094 If you find that BB does well in this meta, would you consider moving to a maindeck BB/Spellstutter package?

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