Comments on: Insider: Alternate Investments Worth Consideration https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Sun, 05 Sep 2021 13:03:15 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sig https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1798142 Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:37:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1798142 In reply to Ben Cottee.

Magic won’t “die”, but I can certainly see a popping bubble where only the most collectible/iconic survive. For example, will something like Snapcaster Mage really be worth a ton if there are no tournaments anymore? Would a Moderately Played Black Lotus continue to fetch $3000+?

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1797703 Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:06:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1797703 In reply to Carl Szalich.

Carl,

Great builds on the video game thoughts! RPG’s are definitely the best investments in vintage video games, whereas sports are mostly trash. Agree 100%. The nice thing about the Sega Saturn too is, the games are just so rare because the system was so unsuccessful in the U.S. With some of the best games on the system released AFTER the Saturn was already discontinued in the states, you end up with some very desirable items.

Comic Books are intriguing – I know nothing about these. I would be investing in the dark. But I absolutely believe there are some good returns there as well!

Glad you enjoyed the column, thanks again for the comment!

Sig

P.S. I still miss that 3DO dearly. I just never had the time to enjoy it. I’m glad it’s getting some love now. 🙂

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1797702 Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:01:55 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1797702 In reply to Colin.

Colin,

I have much to learn in this space. I don’t think I’d be able to pull out all the cards you listed so easily. I could do it…it will just take me a long time. But $60/1000, that’s incredible! Untapped offers this kind of buy price on their website?? That’s for any Pokemon cards at all?

Thanks for the details,

Sig

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By: Ben Cottee https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1797298 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:28:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1797298 In reply to Sig.

I’m not so sure about the Magic not being around forever. While it may not exist as is I can see some version being almost with us forever now. Some card games that existed for much less time and fanfare in the 90’s still have a vibrant community keeping it going and cards still retain some value (Decipher Star Wars and Babylon 5).

I have a really hard time seeing at this point in time how Magic dies which is good news for all us investors 🙂

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By: Carl Szalich https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1796933 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 16:43:52 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1796933 As someone who dabbles in all types of “investments” (aka: nostalgia from my past) I can appreciate this article! LOL you and I even traded $ + a textless damnation for a 3D0 waaayyy back in the day (which still gets used, Twisted is good fun!) so we KNOW there’s cross interest. It’s important to note that the typesd of games you should be aiming to aquire are mostly RPG’s, as they survive the test of time due to their stories, in contrast to things like “sports games” which are constantly upgraded and are the same thing repackaged with different characters / stats.

I would also add “Comic Books” to your list, as of all my “investments” they’ve paid off the most (Amazing Fantasy #15 I bought for $1800 around 5 years ago and is worth > 8K today in CGC 1.5, Incredible Hulk #1 CGC 2.0 I bought for $1500 and is now > 6K)

Great article, thanks! 🙂

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By: Colin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1796742 Mon, 10 Oct 2016 21:16:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1796742 In reply to Sig.

Hey Sig,

I would think any buylist to Troll & Toad would be unappealing. Anyway, usually I pull Pokemon by putting 1st Edition cards to the side, pulling rares from about 1 through 25, rares at the end of the set and anything higher than set count, for example 106/105. Pull popular foils in c/uc, Energy, etc then bulk out. At $60.00/1,000 and $20.00/1,000 for Energy its worth it. I’ll sell as much as I can to Untapped then figure out moving the rest.

From the first 3 years, the c/uc have some value but most not enough for me to worry about that deeply. I’ll leave some money on the table when the pennies don’t match my willingness to spend the time. Though again 1st Edition I move individually, Shadowless and unlimited I bulk.

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By: Sig https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1796688 Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:10:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1796688 In reply to Colin.

Colin,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the recommendations! I agree sealed and complete games offer a nice premium – these should provide the best returns from a video game standpoint.

As for Pokemon bulk…this is most intriguing information! How does one go about liquidating a bunch of Pokemon bulk – especially some of the older stuff from the first 3 years of the game? Sometimes I can’t even distinguish between one printing and another for a card, so submitting a giant buy list of $0.05 cards to Troll and Toad seems very unappealing. 🙂

Thanks again!
Sig

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By: Colin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1796673 Mon, 10 Oct 2016 15:33:23 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1796673 Hey Sig,

Good article, I like your thoughts on diversification having dabbled in Pokemon for a few years and having Hasbro stock too. I don’t understand video games at all so I don’t touch them but it seems still sealed ones would be a good investment. Shopping the bargain stores in my area it looks as though a lot of the Nintendo games sell for a good price loose as well as sealed, but other games appear to only be marked up if sealed.

Anyway, the original Pokemon sets are very collectible and a number of the iconic character, Worlds, etc promos are too and might be worth some small-scale investing. For the DJ in all of us, Pokemon bulk provides a better return than any other CCG.

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By: Sig https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1796551 Mon, 10 Oct 2016 11:42:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1796551 In reply to Ben Cottee.

Ben,

Thank you very much for the feedback! I was admittedly a little nervous about writing this column as it deviates from MTG finance via a tangent. But it’s related, and as you put it, I think it is something speculators of Magic should consider. Especially since we know Magic won’t be around forever.

Gavony Township was very sudden and I don’t quite understand the catalyst. I mean…the card is good don’t get me wrong. But why now, when so many other Modern cards are dropping and we know a reprint could be on the horizon with Modern Masters 2017? Utterly strange.

By the way, a special thank you for sharing your thoughts in the comments section. As one of my primary commenters, you can have significant influence on what I write on. So please keep the feedback, both positive and constructive, coming. 🙂

Thanks!
Sig

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By: Ben Cottee https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-alternate-investments-worth-consideration/#comment-1796549 Mon, 10 Oct 2016 11:39:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76866#comment-1796549 Really enjoyed this Sig, for the audience of QS I think this makes a lot of sense, to think about if not act upon.

Also no idea what is up with Gavony Township!

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