Comments on: Insider: The Importance of Reputation in Trading https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-the-importance-of-reputation-in-trading/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:06:49 +0000 hourly 1 By: Niels Rietkerk https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-the-importance-of-reputation-in-trading/#comment-1904241 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 17:47:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76930#comment-1904241 In reply to Michael Lewis.

(I just approved the above comment, it was in limbo waiting to be approved, I did not realize sooner unfortunately).

It’s an absolute honor to have my article likened to “Who’s the Beatdown?” and anybody not familiar with it should consider searching for it as it’s one of the seminal articles on Magic, it’s by Mike Flores. Thanks!

Your (past?) mindset about trading is probably not uncommon, many try to get ahead. Trying to get ahead is not bad in itself, but, it often comes at a cost to the other trader and that’s not needed. I believe in trading to mutual advantage, which can be accomplished in as many ways as there are reasons to trade.

I agree that ethical trading could make us all ambassadors to the game.

]]> By: Niels Rietkerk https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-the-importance-of-reputation-in-trading/#comment-1800045 Thu, 20 Oct 2016 07:36:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76930#comment-1800045 In reply to Michael Lewis.

I definitely agree that it would be good to strive for being an ambassador to the game and I personally do try that, great addition! I believe that when people hold to my suggestions they should naturally become those ambassadors, I was however approaching this from the perspective of traders improving their trading game, not improving Magic as a whole. Not that there’s anything wrong with the latter.

While I’ve been lucky not to have ran into to many anti-social traders in person, the few I have ran into did spoil the experience. Obviously everyone should want to avoid being one of them.

]]> By: Michael Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-the-importance-of-reputation-in-trading/#comment-1800010 Thu, 20 Oct 2016 04:01:10 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76930#comment-1800010 should finsish by saying that trading has huge potential to create more positive ambassadors for the game rather than spikey sheisters trying to take advantage of new players…which I think is not an uncommon experience in Magic to come in contact with an anti-social trader at some point.

]]> By: Michael Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/10/insider-the-importance-of-reputation-in-trading/#comment-1800008 Thu, 20 Oct 2016 03:55:35 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=76930#comment-1800008 This is like “Who’s the Beatdown” for trading. What an undercovered aspect of Magic that is a huge part of people’s relationship to the game, whether they are active traders or not, everyone who plays magic has traded cards. Thank-you. Some of us remember Ante and how hollow it felt to lose that card…and then decide to never do that again and all was well! Ante was Trading codified as a rule(as far as I remember)…so this is a breath of fresh air to know that there are players who cultivate the art of trading and there are rules to this. I don’t trade too often because my competitive nature(why I play the game) muddles the communication in the trade, whereby I have found myself seeing the trade as a sort of “Battle of Wits” between skill in card valuation and to see how much value can be generated on my end in terms of the qualities you listed, and actually have asked the question “do I win this trade?” to myself before closing…and now questioning the irrelevancy of that question altogether since, ideally, both players leave the trade feeling like they benefited from co-creating a win-win scenario…so the trade should never be approached from the game’s paradigm of win-lose…even though this is probably a very common experience… and likely even the most honest people have had that conversation with themselves at some point. It is a very intriguing, little discussed part of MTG that really colors people’s experience I think. For some , trading may represent (Big Picture) their only exposure of their relationship to money in casual, person-person conversations in public. Consider the wide array of folks who play the game and how each one of us relates to money and value in magic differently, and so ‘defining trading’ for MTG has massive potential to create a positive, sustainable, culture of trading…in much the same way that “Card Advantage”, “Curving Out”, and “Goldfishing” have all entered the shared vernacular of playing the cards. Traders(Casual and Expert alike) could really use more of this type of dialogue to establish some well trod guidelines to impact positively new players. The article also reads to me as a call for all mtg players to be ambassadors of the game with one another always, and that is just warm and fuzzy.

]]>