Comments on: The Aggressive Decks: A Beginner’s Guide Part Two https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/11/aggressive-decks-beginners-guide-part-two/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:30:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: Chris Striker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/11/aggressive-decks-beginners-guide-part-two/#comment-2127172 Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:30:14 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12117#comment-2127172 In reply to Leander Tupper.

Thank you both for your replies :).

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By: Leander Tupper https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/11/aggressive-decks-beginners-guide-part-two/#comment-2127171 Wed, 02 Nov 2016 16:00:09 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12117#comment-2127171 I’ll second that, as somebody who plays a power-card aggro deck (in my case, Assault Formation Gruul that uses Treefolk Harbinger and Permeating Mass as upside-Nacatls, and Prophetic Flamespeaker and Goldnight Castigator as finishers). Surgical Extraction on a key card can hurt- But you’re either wasting time and mana on a card that only mildly slows them, or you’re paying life against a deck that’s trying to put you to 0 ASAP. Granted, if you can force infect to play a key pump card then extract it, it’s brutal, and Extraction is AMAZING against Dredge, but it’s nada against Elves or Affinity or Boggles.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/11/aggressive-decks-beginners-guide-part-two/#comment-2127170 Tue, 01 Nov 2016 22:18:38 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12117#comment-2127170 In reply to Chris Striker.

It’s not something I would rely on. I’ve been on both sides of Surgical Extraction in creature matchups and it rarely works out. Cards that don’t affect the board against decks that flood the board are very questionable in the best circumstances. What you are essentially doing is incrementally improving your chances of winning in a longer game. Yes, sometimes you do get back some card advantage by taking an extra copy out of their hand, but more often you don’t and just improve their chance of drawing worse.

Think of it like this: Lantern Control is based around making each of its opponent’s draws worse, but unless it hits Ensnaring Bridge it cannot beat a resolved creature. Anemic beatdown is still beatdown and in my experience if you’re using cards to make beatdown worse down the line without actually stopping their beatdown now, you’re falling behind. That’s why I advise against it.

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By: Chris Striker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/11/aggressive-decks-beginners-guide-part-two/#comment-2127169 Tue, 01 Nov 2016 21:36:22 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12117#comment-2127169 I like this article a lot David. I want to pick your brain on one concept though–not using cranial extraction effects on gotcha decks. I agree that using the card Cranial Extraction is worthless–it’s too slow. But Surgical Extraction, in the relatively narrow class of decks that either play lots of efficient interaction or lots of targeted discard, seems like a good counterargument to the statement that the effects are bad across the board.

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