Comments on: Digging into Dredge: How to Beat ‘Em

By: Tommy Hoff Hansen

Tommy Hoff Hansen — Fri, 04 Nov 2016 09:31:16 +0000

I’m building a more rogue deck that beats all tier 1 decks more than 70% of the time, except for burn and jund which are at 50%.

I use 4 auriok champion, 2 stillmoon cavalier, 3 ensnaring bridge, and 2 leyline of the void.
All of it in the mainboard.

At an earlier stage I played 3 oona’s prowler, which actually enabled dredge to speed up quite a lot, so dredge is beatable even for the fringe rogue decks…

By: Leander Tupper

Leander Tupper — Fri, 04 Nov 2016 08:06:12 +0000

No love for Tormod’s Crypt? I mean, as far as low-impact solutions go, it’s hard to beat a 0 mana card that boards into any deck. It’s not as resilient, but as far as just “applying hate without hurting your own gameplan” it’s hard to top (Not to mention Lantern Control, Tron, and Eldrazi can fetch it with stirrings, and it even helps Lantern Control get Metalcraft running)

By: Miguel Peidro Montava

Miguel Peidro Montava — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 23:02:41 +0000

Just so you know, as a Dredge player for quite a while now: One of the toughest matchups we have are tron decks, RG a little more than monoU. Just because of ugin, wurmcoil and the family. Also, banning golgari grave troll would be what i would like to happen if we get something banned. Sadly, i keep looking at their ban history and i keep thinking they are looking at conflagrate, since it helps us close maybe a little bit too many games, and we can use it to kill a little bit too many strategies (creature based format, duh…). Very nice article, i hope you guys read it three or four times so that we get sided out of the 10% meta and i can keep playing this deck that i love so much, even with a slightly less visible winrate :p

By: RJ Sims

RJ Sims — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 20:54:15 +0000

In my Mardu Nahiri list 3x Rest In Pizza and 3x Anger of the Gods come in seeing as my turn 2 Wall of Omens conveniently could care less about Anger of the Gods; its a blow out 🙂 I imagine the Jeskai versions could probably implement the same side board options depending on their main board creature package. Not to mention AotG is also a blow out for bushwhacker zoo decks ;P

By: Jordan Boisvert

Jordan Boisvert — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 13:47:46 +0000

Thanks for making such a strong case for Surgical against Dredge. I found your four SB copies in Grixis Delver pretty dubious last time around but am sold now, at least on a pair.

By: Matt M

Matt M — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 05:29:39 +0000

If I were still playing Grixis Delver, Rakdos charm would be my go to card. At least 2 modes are relavent. Early, if they flip 3 amalgums and can bring them back, just wait for them to trigger then exile them. Amalgums are just about the only way dredge beats Grixis.

For everything not running black red, I like surgical extraction. It let’s you pin point which ever card is going to beat you. Low on life, exile conflagrate. Again, they flip a few amalgums, boom, gone. And as long as you have 2 life, it’s free.

Soul Sisters I think already has a pretty good dredge matchup because they keep bringing stuff back, but surgical seals it IMO because the only thing that can beat you is conflagrate(I did get golgari charmed once but i think that was a fluke as it was the perfect card at the perfect time).

Remember, dredge is a meta matchup. Modern has more than enough GY hate to easily make it unplayable. The thing it, the more you dedicate to beat it, the weaker you are to other decks.

By: Ryan Overturf

Ryan Overturf — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 21:41:46 +0000

In reply to Kay Frazier. I assume it's just going to be less good than Grafdigger's Cage. A big part of your game plan is Wurmcoil Engine and/or Ugin, so getting non-Tron lands seems quite poor.

By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago

Roland F. Rivera Santiago — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:15:51 +0000

In reply to Matt M. I agree. I've been testing Rakdos Charm to great effect.

By: Kay Frazier

Kay Frazier — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 19:15:56 +0000

is Bojuka Bog playable in Tron? It can be tutored up pretty easily. Maybe it could replace Ghost Quarter out of the sideboard?

By: Jordan Corgatelli

Jordan Corgatelli — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 18:19:07 +0000

I like to play rakdos charm in my maindeck in BR burn. Modes #1 and (with gargadon gone now) #3 work wonders on dredge, Modes #2 and (as long as there no ravager) #3 work on affinity, Mode #3 hoses elves, bant eldrazi, kiki chord, and helps significantly on soul sisters. I think that if you can fit it in the maindeck you can defeat most decks on game one that have a huge game one advantage. My burn deck already has enough targeted removal (both bolts, blaze, and anger) to not worry too much about game one infect.

By: James Luckhurst

James Luckhurst — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 17:51:47 +0000

Ensnaring Bridge also happens to be a really good answer to the deck, especially paired with 4x Surgical Extraction. Oh how i love Lantern! Seems like it may again be Lantern’s time to shine.

By: Matt M

Matt M — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 17:33:46 +0000

I think Rakdos Charm is a great option. It removes their graveyard at instant speed and also improves your affinity matchup.