Comments on: Under the Hood: Inspecting Infect https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/inspecting-infect/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:08:42 +0000 hourly 1 By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/inspecting-infect/#comment-2127359 Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:08:42 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12389#comment-2127359 In reply to Trevor Holmes.

I think that’s somewhat myopic, to be frank. Burn may not have the best Dredge matchup, but it’s not a terrible one, and they can pack hate just as easily as any other deck. When we look beyond that, we also see a deck that pummels Death’s Shadow, Infect, Lantern Control, and Tron (which are doing stuff right now), and can hang with the likes of Bant Eldrazi and BGx, which constitutes the majority of the Tier 1 metagame at the moment. If Ad Nauseam and Dredge are its only commonly played bad matchups (and the latter can be mitigated through hate), I’d say Burn’s in a pretty good place right now.

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By: Trevor Holmes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/inspecting-infect/#comment-2127358 Fri, 02 Dec 2016 02:06:44 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12389#comment-2127358 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

Roland,

I’m of the very biased opinion that Burn can’t be taken seriously in the metagame while Dredge is around in large numbers. This thinking might not be as universal as I think it is, so I possibly should have mentioned that in the article. I’m not entirely sure what the public consensus is regarding Burn, from the discussions I’ve had and what I’ve seen in the community for the past few weeks it seems that the “Burn is bad while Dredge is good” thinking is common, but again, that doesn’t stop a player from picking up Burn and doing well with it regardless.

Hope that helps?
Trevor

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By: Trevor Holmes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/inspecting-infect/#comment-2127357 Fri, 02 Dec 2016 02:03:03 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12389#comment-2127357 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

Got me, I guess. ‘Strict upgrade’ for you is like ‘gunslinging’ for me. Hope you made it past the first paragraph!

While the term is a colloquialism, I do see a difference between the two. Blossoming Defense does what Apostle’s Blessing does 80% of the time but better, so it is a ‘strict upgrade’. Something else like Might of Old Krosa vs. Groundswell is just an ‘upgrade’, as they do similar things but different enough that they can’t be compared on the exact same metric.

Not sure if wanted an elaboration, but there it is 🙂

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By: Jacob Kellogg https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/inspecting-infect/#comment-2127356 Thu, 01 Dec 2016 22:36:53 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12389#comment-2127356 A kitten dies every time someone says “strict upgrade” when what they actually mean is just “upgrade”, leaving themselves with no relevant language for something that really IS a “strict upgrade”.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/12/inspecting-infect/#comment-2127355 Thu, 01 Dec 2016 19:30:11 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=12389#comment-2127355 Hey Trevor, I see you’ve found a new deck to feature for us. Everything in it looks pretty good. My question is, why are we not talking about Burn in this metagame? It seems to be doing pretty well from what I can tell. Is it because the matchup is bad for Infect pretty much no matter what?

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