Comments on: The Fair Decks: A Beginner’s Guide https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:22:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: Zach Stackhouse https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127888 Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:22:43 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127888 In reply to Matt M.

The only problem with that, Matt, is that Fair decks tend to be much more expensive than “Fair” or Unfair decks. Jund costs over two grand because all of its auto-includes are just all-around powerful cards that see play in other decks and other formats. A deck like Merfolk, for instance, is cheap in part because the only competitive player buying Lord of Atlantis is the one trying to build merfolk, as opposed to Tarmogoyf which sees Modern play in half a dozen decks and a few legacy builds, too. That shifts the demand curve.

Granted, a new modern player with cash to burn would be in great shape getting something like Abzan midrange, but I felt it was worth pointing this out since the price tag of modern is often a barrier to entry.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127887 Fri, 03 Feb 2017 00:14:46 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127887 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

I should have said it as “It’s a fair deck. It’s not one of the Fair decks.” if that makes more sense. It isn’t a Fair deck, but it has a fair gameplan. The Fair decks share the same gameplan and tend toward midrange and control. There are plenty of other decks that are fair, but they’re not a Fair deck.

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By: Matt M https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127886 Thu, 02 Feb 2017 20:22:50 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127886 Great article. IMO, Fair decks seem like the perfect choice for the new Modern player. Basically they are “good stuff” decks with mild synergy(Jund/Grixis both benefit from a full grave yard but are not like dredge which needs the graveyard to win).

The reason, I fee they are not well suited to the new modern player is what you mentioned. They rarely have horrible match ups but rarely have great ones. Alot of wins are slog fests and incorrect sequencing can kill you 3-4 turns later.

That’s not to say a deck like Merfolk or Affinity is easy to play(archbound ravager is among the more skill testing cards in modern) but in general, I’ve found Affinity or Soul Sisters easier to play than Grixis Delver. That said, I think Jund is among the easiest of the fair decks to play since your curve is very nicely laid out vs something like Jeskai or Grixis where you may have 4 2 drops to play turn 2 and the incorrect one will likely cost you the game.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127885 Thu, 02 Feb 2017 18:53:56 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127885 In reply to David Ernenwein.

“It is a fair deck but it’s not one of the fair decks.” Okay, I’m lost!

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127884 Thu, 02 Feb 2017 04:18:06 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127884 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Tempo is a separate decktype. It is a fair deck but it’s not one of the fair decks. Tempo is kind of its own thing, an aggressive deck that isn’t really linear aggro, gotcha!, or power card. I am planning on dealing with this eventually.

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By: Chris Striker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127883 Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:56:00 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127883 Thanks for a great article. I think you should group these articles with the Modern Primers, whenever they come out. Very informative and very relevant.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127882 Wed, 01 Feb 2017 22:24:04 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127882 “All fair decks want to trade their cards for your cards until you run out of meaningful cards and then they win.”

Aren’t you referring to midrange and control decks? Tempo decks are the third popular brand of fair strategies, and they do not operate on this axis at all, especially in fair “mirrors.” Instead, they want to maximize the time advantages you mentioned when referring to Jund’s plan against combo decks. For tempo decks, maximizing that time advantage is their primary gameplan, not trading cards and running opponents out of resources.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127881 Wed, 01 Feb 2017 18:45:56 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127881 I liked this article. It was clear, succinct, and accurate. I don’t have much to add, so I’ll just chime in with my support and leave it at that. More, please.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127880 Wed, 01 Feb 2017 04:55:49 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127880 In reply to Leehu Ben Ender Sigler.

Thank you, I intend to!

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By: Benjamin Alan Mohr https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127879 Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:53:21 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127879 In reply to Leehu Ben Ender Sigler.

+1 🙂

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By: Leehu Ben Ender Sigler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127878 Tue, 31 Jan 2017 23:24:32 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127878 Love all your articles, keep up the good work!

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By: David Hamlin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/01/beginners-guide-fair-decks/#comment-2127877 Tue, 31 Jan 2017 22:15:24 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13129#comment-2127877 Thanks for mentioning BW Tokens, no one usually does except if they want to beat up on it.

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