Comments on: The Unusual Decks: A Beginner’s Guide https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Thu, 02 Mar 2017 04:26:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: Trever Allcock https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128020 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 04:26:38 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128020 In reply to David Ernenwein.

At what point does something no longer qualify? Kiki-Chord can easily chain tutoring from the Kiki-Witness-Chord Chain every turn?

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128019 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 03:24:54 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128019 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

No, they’re not linear aggro decks, but they are directly descended from them. A tempo deck is an aggro deck built around interaction where aggro decks may run some but it isn’t an integral part of the strategy. Sorry if this was no clear enough

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128018 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 17:49:57 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128018 “Linear Aggro deck that is trying to get under an opponent and stay under them. To that end, they run a lot of interaction.”

>Linear Aggro
>Interaction

Linear and interactive are antonyms. Tempo decks (Merfolk, Delver, etc.) are interactive aggro decks. Bogles, Bushwhacker Zoo, Infect are examples of linear aggro decks.

Do you disagree with this assessment or was labeling tempo decks “linear” a mistake?

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By: Kurt Simmøns https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128017 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 12:21:48 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128017 K, you just described Pod in that last sentence.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128016 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 06:20:28 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128016 In reply to Kurt Simmøns.

You have been playing Kiki-Chord, the closest thing Modern has to a Toolbox strategy anymore. It relies on tutors and bullets which make it look like a Toolbox deck, but it is not a true inheritor of the archetype. The defining aspect of the Toolbox strategy was that it was built around a repeatable engine, such as Survival of the Fittest and Birthing Pod. Many decks can play tutors, and in fact it is correct to do so if it supports your strategy, but that alone does not make a Toolbox deck. You have to be able to do it every turn. For this reason, Kiki-Chord is a Fair Combo deck with a Toolbox package.

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By: Jason Schousboe https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128015 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 01:21:41 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128015 In reply to Kurt Simmøns.

In this series of articles, David is trying to come up with very specific terms to encompass every possible type of deck. In some cases he’s used the terms very differently from how the community has traditionally used them. I too would classify Kiki Chord as Toolbox (and probably Abzan CoCo too), but he appears to be using it differently here. His criteria is that the tutoring engine/suite be repeatable—I could easily see expanding that to include regular tutoring. I’ll let him weigh in here on the criticism.

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By: Kurt Simmøns https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128014 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 00:05:08 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128014 Agreed, Aaron. I have no idea how this guy came the conclusion Kiki-Chord isn’t a toolbox and that toolbox decks “no longer exist in Modern”. Then what have I been playing for the last 3 years in Modern?

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By: Aaron Elias Newbom https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128013 Tue, 28 Feb 2017 19:37:51 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128013 In reply to Aaron Elias Newbom.

What I mean is that chord especially post board is very toolbox. While in many matchups they’re tryin. To assemble the combo asap, they become heavily toolbox is it’s any of the matchups where combo is not the answer

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By: Aaron Elias Newbom https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/02/unusual-decks-beginners-guide/#comment-2128012 Tue, 28 Feb 2017 19:35:36 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=13505#comment-2128012 Hey Kiki chord is still around for toolbox.
Also sultai traverse is becoming a thing. Although I prefer my sultai midrange build.

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