Comments on: Sleight Tweaks: More on Shadow Delver

By: Beard-Puppy

Beard-Puppy — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 22:13:51 +0000

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/whiteless-deaths-shadow/ Started from your original 4 color list and found Delver to simply not be very strong and to cause too many issues with achieving life loss necessary to deploy a timely death’s shadow. Getting to simultaneously grind out with snap caster mage while still having a working traverse package is incredibly strong. The main problems I’ve had are with taxes decks and blood moon. Otherwise I’ve been completely destroying other Death’s Shadow decks with this list. 1 of tasigur has been excellent against the jund lists specifically. They typically just don’t have an answer outside of lili.

By: Vladimir Bouriakov

Vladimir Bouriakov — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:12:45 +0000

Asked back in October 2015 in your article “Some Bob with your bugs…” about suicide delver. You’re right the deck still feels like a bad aggro deck but still hoping for a competitive dimir delver deck. Have you done any testing with bloodghast alongside delver? Gaining popularity in grixis. Thought scour, oboro landfall synergy, delve creatures… Make dimir great. Here’s someone else’s cool grixis list: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bloody-singleminded-competitive/

By: Darcy Hartwick

Darcy Hartwick — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:23:01 +0000

Sultai delver doesn’t seem very good to me. You’re DS jund with no way to pull ahead in card advantage (lili/command) and less copies of good threats (delver instead of traverse) plus your new threat delver is vulnerable to bolt so youlose DS Jund advanage of being mostly bolt proof. You gain stubborn denial / leak but basically in place of tarfires and inquisitions that are as good or better 90% of the time.

DS Jund can go to topdeck mode and hope to draw goyf, shadow, traverse, lili, kcommand, or sit on a reactive card like tarfire. The dead draws would pretty much just be the discard.

Sultai Shadow… you go to topdeck mode and all you hope to draw are goyf/shadow – or maybe a sleight/vision to get another chance at a goyf/shadow.

So you hope to stick a threat and protect it I guess – except you will run out of cards very fast trying to shoal everything, and by turn 4 mana leak does nothing vs path/push for the most part.

If DS Jund didnt exist maybe I’d see something here – but this just seems like a worse game plan in every conceivable way.