Comments on: Foretelling the Future of Modern: Amonkhet Spoilers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/foretelling-future-amonkhet-spoilers/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:12:53 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/foretelling-future-amonkhet-spoilers/#comment-2128209 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:12:53 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14007#comment-2128209 In reply to David Ernenwein.

The decks that play Sage usually have a way to search it/dig for it specifically so that they can kill enchantments—RiP for CoCo, Moon for Valakut, both for Knightfall, etc. Sage is also a common board-in for these decks when they expect Worship, and killing an Aether Hub can be awesome against Affinity in some games. It’s just a way more flexible card with far-reaching applications, which is crucial in Modern. Manglehorn will never replace it.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/foretelling-future-amonkhet-spoilers/#comment-2128208 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 19:03:59 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14007#comment-2128208 In reply to elmahnken.

You could, especially if there are more coming, but I don’t know why you would. It would mean dramatically retooling the mana base and with that shifting the creatures you run. If it is worth it I suspect that rather than completely rebuild existing lists a new, probably Esper, list will emerge.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/foretelling-future-amonkhet-spoilers/#comment-2128207 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:19:05 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14007#comment-2128207 In reply to François Lacelle.

I completely forgot about the enchantments part, it just comes up so rarely. Which still makes me think that in most cases Manglehorn would still be better.

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By: elmahnken https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/foretelling-future-amonkhet-spoilers/#comment-2128206 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:13:20 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14007#comment-2128206 It’s worth noting that Rec Sage hits enchantments, so Manglehorn isn’t a straight upgrade. That said, decks running Rec Sage tend not to be hit too hard by Blood Moon, and there aren’t really any other notable enchantments in Modern right now except corner cases.

The way I look at Gideon is as a 3-mana modal spell that’s a 4/4 indestructible or a Pacifism, with an “Oops, I win” button tacked on for certain matchups.

The only thing I think you didn’t mention is that a couple of the cyclers look pretty promising for Living End. Now that there are some powerful one-mana cycling options in white and blue, maybe it’s time to replace Demonic Dread with Ardent Plea?

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By: François Lacelle https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/foretelling-future-amonkhet-spoilers/#comment-2128205 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:46:17 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14007#comment-2128205 Even though I do find manglehorn very interesting and could consider it in certain metagames, as a abzan company player I can’t ignore the fact that he can’t destroy enchantments. I think because of that he won’t be replacing reclamation sage.

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