Comments on: As Good as Allowed: Testing Assault Loam https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/testing-assault-loam/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:53:07 +0000 hourly 1 By: Hith_Ransir https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/testing-assault-loam/#comment-2128248 Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:53:07 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14173#comment-2128248 I can’t say with confidence that the same testers who missed copycat thought about LFTL. Those bumbling bozos probably forgot it existed. If they did, it would only further indicate how out of touch they are, as these new lands are simply not viable in modern.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/testing-assault-loam/#comment-2128247 Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:50:12 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14173#comment-2128247 In reply to Christian Schell.

I agree. Additional testing since I wrote the article indicates that any consistency upgrade from the cycling lands is eaten up by inefficiency. It’s just too durdly an engine these days. I’m not even convinced that it would work if they were just the Onslaught lands. A powerful draw engine is nice and all but the payoff is too low. Even in more combo centric decks it’s just not worthwhile. Shadow of the Grave on the other hand…

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By: Hagen Kirk https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/testing-assault-loam/#comment-2128246 Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:47:54 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14173#comment-2128246 This is my starting point with Seismic Loam

4 Seismic Assault
4 Life From the Loam
4 Shadow of the Grave
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Molten Vortex
2 Lightning Axe
4 Cathartic Reunion
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Noxious Revival

3 Liliana of the Veil

4 Blackcleave Cliffs
2 Copperline Gorge
2 Blood Crypt
2 Stomping Grounds
2 Overgrown Tomb
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Forest
3 Swamp
3 Mountain

Draw cards, kill stuff, Pitch 3 lands, Loam, pitch 3 lands, Shadow, pitch 3 lands is 18 damage in 1 turn. Heck of a T4 🙂

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By: Christian Schell https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/04/testing-assault-loam/#comment-2128245 Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:13:43 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14173#comment-2128245 I think the current cycling lands are too expensive to be anything more than an incidental upside. Unless some payoff card comes around, Drake Haven isn’t it, we’ll probably see them mostly in things that have plenty of land already and like to cantrip, like UW or Esper control.

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