Comments on: Enemy Sighted: GP Vegas Metagame https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 21 Jun 2017 06:07:01 +0000 hourly 1 By: Milano Nicolum https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/#comment-2128442 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 06:07:01 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14583#comment-2128442 In reply to elmahnken.

While ballista can be problematic, I think fast Ugin (in some decks) is much worse for WB tokens… There is nothing you can do to deal with him once he hits the table.
Also even sideboarding Stony silence does not usually help. It may turn off Oblivion stone and mana artifacts, but it doesn’t get you anywhere closer to your actual goal (beating your opponent with your army of tokens).

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By: elmahnken https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/#comment-2128441 Fri, 16 Jun 2017 00:13:26 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14583#comment-2128441 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

I’m not a huge fan of Stony Silence in a sideboard slot since we have such a naturally good matchup against Affinity already. Stony is good against Ballista, Map and Mind Stone, but shutting down their early mana development isn’t nearly as important in a deck that’s really looking to grind. Really, you’re just bringing it in to shut down the Ballista, which is like bringing in Stony vs. Merfolk to shut down Aether Vial. If you need something against Lantern and/or even more insurance against Affinity, I prefer Kataki, War’s Wage. Opponents often board out some amount of single-target removal in games 2 and 3, and having a creature-heavy sideboard to take advantage of that is often the right play.

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By: elmahnken https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/#comment-2128440 Fri, 16 Jun 2017 00:06:38 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14583#comment-2128440 In reply to David Ernenwein.

I’m not saying Ballista is our only problem with the deck, but if you don’t draw your Intangible Virtues in a timely fashion, Ballista starts gunning down your team. It also kills our Auriok Champions for free, can shoot our powerful planeswalkers, which are a big way to pull ahead against the Eldrazi, and fireballs us, since we can go low on life with Blossoms and Thoughtseizes. Of course, there’s still All is Dust and a potential fast Karn to worry about as well, but that used to be more manageable before the advent of Ballista. It may look like a decent matchup on paper, but it’s quite tough.

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By: St4rre https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/#comment-2128439 Thu, 15 Jun 2017 07:21:01 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14583#comment-2128439 I play Living End

I faced Death Shadow at GP copenhagen.
After winning a close G1 where i stole his 7 power goyf with my Kari zevs expertise and killed him.

G2 i drop t0 leyline of sanctity then t3 fulminator and T4 blood moon.

It wasent a snapwin but i got there finaly.
He had a hand with like 3/4 discardspells he couldent use.

I get that leyline isent the best always vs DS but i have been really liking it in the board.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/#comment-2128438 Thu, 15 Jun 2017 04:00:59 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14583#comment-2128438 In reply to David Ernenwein.

^Seconding this, and what about Stony?

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/#comment-2128437 Thu, 15 Jun 2017 01:06:58 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14583#comment-2128437 In reply to elmahnken.

I would never have expected the problem to be Walking Ballista. I thought tokens played all the +1/+1 enchantments, or has that fallen off?

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By: elmahnken https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/#comment-2128436 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 15:27:56 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14583#comment-2128436 BW Tokens is great against Death’s Shadow and decent against Counters Company, as well as having a fantastic matchup against Affinity and a good one against Burn (maindeck Auriok Champion and Sorin help there). Although we often lose game 1 to Gifts Storm, Living End, Dredge, etc. being in white means we have the sideboard tools to fight those decks. But because the Spectral Procession-enabling manabase can’t support Ghost Quarters, and because our sideboard is already stretched thin fighting fast combo decks and dealing with hate cards (with cards such as Burrenton Forge-Tender), we have a really hard time against Eldrazi Tron. Previously, it was a good matchup, but Ballista has made it a nightmare. I think Eldrazi Tron is the only thing keeping BW Tokens from putting up results at the top tables. But if your FNM meta is chock full of Grixis Shadow like mine is, it’s a great deck to bring.

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By: aaron newbom https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/06/enemy-sighted-gp-vegas-metagame/#comment-2128435 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:13:40 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=14583#comment-2128435 I agree with basically everything here. I personally have found shadow EXTREMELY manageable. Both my decks have had strongly positive records along the lines of 3-1 each

My biggest recommendation is to just run abrupt decay or blood moon. People cutting their decays is a huuuuuge reason that shadow is doing so damn well. Even the abzan and jund midrange decks I fight frequently run a single decay.

Thoughtseize rather than inquisition to help mitigate the >3 Cmc issue
And add back in those decays.

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