Comments on: New Beginnings: Implications of a Modern Pro Tour https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/new-beginnings-implications-modern-pro-tour/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:50:53 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/new-beginnings-implications-modern-pro-tour/#comment-2128570 Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:50:53 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14991#comment-2128570 In reply to Michael Ferguson.

Eldrazi Winter was largely a result of R&D design oversights, not of pros breaking the format. If they hadn’t done it, someone else would have found the deck soon enough; heck, I was already onto something damningly similar myself: http://quietspeculation.com/turn-four-ulamog-reshaping-modern-with-eldrazi-stompy/

Drastic mistakes like that are of course bound to happen in Modern, which is why we have a banlist in the first place. But I really doubt one happens in the near future. And if it does, and the pros find it first, then good; the deck will be gone from Modern faster. I would wager that Wizards learned from the Eldrazi fiasco and will just emergency ban another Tier 0 deck if one should arise. Aaron heard us loud and clear at GP Detroit, and although he pledged to take a conservative wait-and-see approach the first time around, he has to be aware of how coldly players remember that winter: http://quietspeculation.com/modern-metagame-breakdown-2516-362016/

All that said, I disagree with the whole premise of your argument, which is that Pod and Twin were banned “purely” for shaking up the format. The data we have indicates that the reasons these cards were banned are those listed in their respective changes explanations. If anything, the Pro Tour only influenced the timing of these bans by pushing them up on the calendar a little (although Pod made up 20% of the metagame when it got the axe, so I’m not sure how you can defend that deck either way). More on that here: http://quietspeculation.com/a-defense-of-the-splinter-twin-ban/

And don’t forget that no matter how “awful” it feels to have your deck banned, we’ve seen multiple bans of this variety now (Pod, Twin, Delver, Eldrazi), and yet Modern is more popular than it ever has been! So clearly players don’t mind in the long run.

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By: Michael Ferguson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/new-beginnings-implications-modern-pro-tour/#comment-2128569 Mon, 31 Jul 2017 13:33:51 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14991#comment-2128569 Color me skeptical. Banning cards (Birthing Pod, Splinter Twin) purely for the sake of shaking up the format feels awful for people who owned those decks, and the last time we had a Modern PT the pros “broke it” and put us into several long months of eldrazi winter.

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By: Rory Alexander Farrell-Madden McDonough https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/new-beginnings-implications-modern-pro-tour/#comment-2128568 Fri, 28 Jul 2017 20:20:33 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14991#comment-2128568 Yeah, I’m onboard for the Modern Pro Tour. To put it simply, Modern remains my favorite format, and it’s fun to see people play your favorite format at the highest levels.

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By: Frederik Altmann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/new-beginnings-implications-modern-pro-tour/#comment-2128567 Fri, 28 Jul 2017 19:02:09 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14991#comment-2128567 Modern’s return to the pro tour was inevitable after all. As WotC stated in Magic Digital Next, they see Magic as one of the 5 top e-sport brands (especially streaming potential). Modern is the most popular format and -moreover- receives the highest attention online.

Appearently WotC realized that Modern shouldnt be utilized to promote new sets like standard does but, on the contrary, promote competetive Magic overall. Will it lead to a more streamlined version of modern? Maybe but unlikely. Grixis shadow is currently considered the best deck in the format, promoted by many a pro and it certainly holds its ground. Yet, the format is battling back on all fronts. The card pool is so deep that (unless completely broken sol lands are overwhelimg normal efficiency scales without a real drawback) it seems that players usually find ways to keep up.

titanshift added 2 omens and 2 relics main, white has condemn and crusader, ds by default does a lot of work for red decks, green just outvalues ds and even a simple land like grove of the burnwillows allows for significant tools of disruption. these are very specific examples ofc, but showcase the variety of ankles decks arrange themselves.

Im not worried for modern even with claim / fame in the format 😉

Unban Stoneforge, give control miscalculation and lets see where we are headed.

Certainly looking forward to watching the Pro Tour again!

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