Comments on: Video Series with Ryland: UW Control https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Fri, 21 Jul 2017 01:09:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: SOU Organization https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128492 Fri, 21 Jul 2017 01:09:43 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128492 Hey Ryland! I just realized you play Amulet Titan. I’d absolutely love to see some content and/or a primer!

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By: Andy Golla https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128491 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:02:40 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128491 In reply to Ryland Taliaferro.

That does make sense. Honestly you had enough tools that game that most any decision would probably have been fine.

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By: Ryland Taliaferro https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128490 Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:35:06 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128490 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

Hi Roland!

I appreciate the kind words, I’m glad you enjoyed it! Gideon of the Trials has been outstanding for me so far; I have also been quite impressed. Another Geist in the board definitely seems reasonable, the only issue being that I don’t think I could find the space. Interestingly enough, having access to Gideon of the Trials makes having additional cheap closers in the board such as Geist less necessary, since Gideon does double-duty in that regard! Thanks for watching!

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By: Ryland Taliaferro https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128489 Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:32:06 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128489 In reply to Matt DeKok.

Hi Matt!

Spell Queller is a sweet tool for certain control decks but I don’t think this is the one. The biggest reason is that we are largely a tap-out control deck looking to manage threats after they resolve (albeit countering some that we can’t deal with otherwise). With the large number of walkers and verdicts we have, playing at instant speed can at times be an issue. In addition I’m not a huge fan of the Non-bo with our own Verdicts.

I do realize that you are asking about SB Quellers and not MD ones, so it may seem like a lot of my issues with the card won’t necessarily come up. However, for the matchups where I need to overload on counters, I would prefer just to have access to things like Dispels and additional Negates.

The biggest reason for this (and perhaps the only important reason Quellers aren’t in the board) is that Negates and Dispels have more matchup overlap. I need my counters to be cheap and efficient against decks like burn and Queller is neither of those. On top of that, in the matchups where I need my additional counterspells, I typically need them to be hard counterspells, not temporarily stored under my Queller until a later date. It may seem like people are going to be boarding out all of their removal against UW, but it’s not uncommon to see something like Echoing Truth, or some kind of lingering removal intending to hit a Gideon or a Colonnade.

If you can find room in the board for them, they can definitely be good, I’m just not convinced it’s optimal. Just my two cents. Thanks for watching!

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By: Ryland Taliaferro https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128488 Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:21:41 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128488 In reply to aaron newbom.

Hi Aaron!

Seas are incredible. I honestly think they are the biggest draw to playing the deck (especially over other control decks). I rarely side any number out and they are frequently a deciding factor for the game’s result. Thanks for watching!

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By: Ryland Taliaferro https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128487 Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:20:00 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128487 In reply to Matt DeKok.

Hi Matt!

Certainly seems like a reasonable line, and I also agree that at that stage of the game most lines look good. Definitely our game to lose at that point! Thanks for watching.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128486 Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:25:01 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128486 Excellent video series. I was impressed with Gideon of the Trials’ performance in the league, and I think the 60 looks pretty solid overall. I do think I’d like to see another Geist to help close out games in which you have to win quickly, but that’s more of a quibble than anything else.

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By: Matt DeKok https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128485 Tue, 11 Jul 2017 04:04:19 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128485 Thoughts of Spell Quellers in the sideboard?

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By: aaron newbom https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128484 Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:39:37 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128484 I think I watched you play a bit. I was at the invitational as well. (Also scrubbed out, also did better in the open, although not as well as you)

how did the mainboard seas feel? I mean they seem quite good in general vs all the greedy mana. It’s like a mini moon+cantrip to slow people down

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By: Matt DeKok https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128483 Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:33:09 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128483 Near the end of Match 1 you were likely going to win anyway, but you could have:

1. Played path targeting your own wall, getting basic plains

2. Island, Snap, Path targeting Courser.

3. Attack for 6

4. Pass with Mana Leak up and 3 U and 2 W available mana making the mana denial plan very difficult.

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By: Ryland Taliaferro https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128482 Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:02:58 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128482 In reply to Andy Golla.

Hi Andy!

At the time my thought was that I wasn’t necessarily digging aggressively for the plains, I was just more concerned with the card advantage the Courser could have accrued over the next few turns while I was still messing around. In addition I figured that my opponent had only 1 card left and that it was likely nothing.

That said, I probably should not have Cryptic’ed the Courser. What was likely the correct line would have been to Cryptic EOT bouncing the Blood Moon, and then killing my opponent with 2 Colonnades. I had enough mana to activate both and my opponent was at 8. The only card I can imagine they would have would be Beast Within, at which point I would just kill them with the beast of the course of the next couple turns. The counter point would be that if my opponent DID have Beast Within, I would be giving them 1 free turn to resolve whatever they may have drawn off the top. However, with the number of cards I had and how high my life total was, that wasn’t really a concern.

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By: Andy Golla https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/07/video-series-with-ryland-uw-control/#comment-2128481 Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:47:14 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=14823#comment-2128481 Game 1, when the opponent played Courser and you decided to counter draw with Cryptic to look for a Plains, you could have counter bounced Blood Moon and fetched Plains with your Flooded Strand.

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