Comments on: The Humans Arrive: Modern’s Next Big Thing https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:39:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: ben coley https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128896 Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:39:39 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128896 In reply to Adrian Camilleri.

Indeed! He’s got a good channel and is enjoyable to watch. If he truly did brew the deck then credit where credit is due, congrats to the man.

Anyone else just super stoked that a deck like this can even exist in modern? There’s a not-insignificant amount of doomsaying when it comes to modern and when occurrences like this happen I feel rewarded for being a modern player. Just like when Amulet Bloom burst onto the scene, yes it was a powerful deck but the cards had existed for years and nobody had thought to put them together. It’s innovations and new ideas like that which make modern such a fun format, there’s so many undiscovered gems sitting there and no FNM is safe from these brilliant off-meta brews. Big tournaments can give the impression of a stratified and sometimes static format but in reality at a grass roots level modern has a real wild-west feel about it. And I love it.

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By: Zach Stackhouse https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128895 Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:13:21 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128895 In reply to Ethan Dehoff.

Merfolk wants to play spreading seas and a lord to make all their creatures unblockable.

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By: Adrian Camilleri https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128894 Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:22:24 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128894 I’m not seeing any credit given to Magic Aids (the chap/channel who actually created the deck).
Collins has said that someone else created the deck and that he took it and changed a few things (he played 3 of one card instead of 4 and 4 of another card instead of 3).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjRDzLDm-ts&t=0s

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By: Ethan Dehoff https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128893 Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:45:40 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128893 In reply to ben coley.

it is similar to Merfolk indeed. It seems to me that humans has a better disruption package while Merfolk has better card advantage and evasion, at the cost of less interaction. Humans used to be faster, but the current deck isn’t optimized for speed and UG Merfolk has gotten quicker.

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By: Ethan Dehoff https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128892 Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:41:06 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128892 How do merfolk not attack in a normal way? Is it because they’re merfolk?

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128891 Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:06:30 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128891 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

Opening something like Zig makes your Companies into 5-drops. The card basically has a lot of tension with Vial, which encourages you to build your decks so that you don’t have that many traditional mana sources. And as Trevor mentioned, running Company suddenly gives opposing Denials a juicy target.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128890 Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:16:07 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128890 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

The mana can’t support it. Including the Noble Hierarchs you have seven green sources, ten if you count fetchlands. That’s pretty risky. Also, pilot had an article today where he explained that Collected Company slowed the deck down.

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By: ben coley https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128889 Thu, 26 Oct 2017 22:04:04 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128889 Yep. Saw it and was hooked straight away.
Understood the risks of it being a flash-in-the-pan but took a harder look and felt it had reached a sort of critical mass with the new tribal land and freebooter, so I’ve bought the deck.

Half of it arrived today. I was giddy like a child haha.

Yes, it’s not perfect, but wow it’s a fun deck. It is pretty good though. Lots of ‘free win’ potential which is a solid trait for what’s effectively a weirder brand of merfolk. Humans is, after all, a ‘fish’ deck.

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128888 Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:25:16 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128888 36 creatures, every single one hit by collected company, no collected company. I guess you take too much damage from the manabase if you want to ensure green mana? Or is there some other reason this deck doesnt want company?

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By: Zach Stackhouse https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128887 Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:44:39 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128887 It seemed sort of inevitable with ramp decks and grixis shadow that classic go-wide fast aggro decks could do some damage, with the only real question mark being storm. A lot of people are assuming this is a one-time thing, but I’m kinda hoping that this deck and similar strategies rise somewhat in popularity to bring enough of a shift that I can finally…FINALLY play storm without the midrange players of the world going on for a ban.

Good for Collins for doing a great job metagaming in a format where people constantly complain there is “too much” diversity to prepare (thinking of a certain SCG article of late).

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2017/10/humans-arrive-moderns-next-big-thing/#comment-2128886 Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:25:41 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=15807#comment-2128886 Glad to see you’re as excited about Humans as I am, Trevor. The deck is a gorgeous piece of deckbuilding design. I’m a bit worried as to what will happen to it when it faces a control deck (as Collins admitted that he wasn’t really teching with those decks in mind), but I think this deck has the requisite combination of interactivity and speed to be a player going forward.

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