Comments on: Bloodbraid Month, Pt. 2: Finding the Deck

By: David Ernenwein

David Ernenwein — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:33:07 +0000

It’s strange, I consistently felt like I was only a card or two away from making it work and that a Jund master could have gotten there. Admittedly, I’m not the most objective judge of these things.

In the event of an unban, you’re absolutely right, everyone and their hamster wheel will be on midrange Jund. I’m just not sure if that’s still correct.

By: David Ernenwein

David Ernenwein — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:29:34 +0000

In reply to Jordan Boisvert. If I have the opportunity to revisit this, that is definitely where I'd start.

By: David Ernenwein

David Ernenwein — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:28:42 +0000

In reply to rafaamcarvalho. I think I had a version almost exactly like this at one point. It was fine, but not quite there. Just a little too clunky to actually use.

By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago

Roland F. Rivera Santiago — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:57:45 +0000

I’m going to register my skepticism regarding Bloodbraid and Shadow being in the same deck. I think your testing illustrates how their requisite support cards don’t mesh all that well together, and I don’t think there’s any real way to fix that problem. You can’t run Bob in the same deck as Shadow, but you’d usually love to flip Bob off a Bloodbraid. The tight, highly efficient Shadow shell can’t really afford to run 4 copies of Liliana of the Veil, but that’s exactly the kind of density Bloodbraid would want in order to increase the likelihood of flipping it (and Bloodbraid into Liliana was generally considered to be an almost-backbreaking play). I think BBE’s return will be a boost to classic Jund first and foremost, and any collaboration it has with Shadow will be on scattered players’ pet decks.

By: Jordan Boisvert

Jordan Boisvert — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:19:41 +0000

If I may, it seems to me like the solution is to run the Shadow package (Wraith/Seize/Shadow) and not the delirium package (Bauble/Traverse). The latter is what gives you crummy cascades, and the consistency boost it affords is less necessary when you have a higher density of power cards anyway (now Shadow + Goyf + BBE). I’d start with the Shadow bare-bones, fill out the rest of the shell with good Jund cards, and let BBE do the rest.

By: rafaamcarvalho

rafaamcarvalho — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:08:28 +0000

When I saw the pt. 1 of this series, I immediately tried to brew a Bloodbraid Elf and Death’s Shadow list. I couldn’t get all the testing I wanted but I ended up on this:
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jund-shadow-bbe/
Like you said, the cascades are not always incredible but I do believe is a very powerful deck and BBE helps against the control matchups.