Comments on: The Spice of Rivalry: Brewing with Rivals https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:52:28 +0000 hourly 1 By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/#comment-2129160 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:52:28 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17300#comment-2129160 In reply to David Koon.

I can see how that would work, though it does have the Polymorph problem of needing a target to work. On the other hand, maybe the answer for Amulet decks is to just go hog wild on being glass cannon decks.

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By: David Koon https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/#comment-2129159 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 20:56:40 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17300#comment-2129159 Ironically, Amulet Titan can kill/”go off” on turn 2 with the help of another Rivals card: Enter the Unknown. I’ve been playing around with a list that runs some extra Khalni Gardens to ensure I have targets. I’m not nearly well versed with the deck enough to be the one to break the card, but it certainly feels like something is there.

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By: Aaron Elias Newbom https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/#comment-2129158 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:16:16 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17300#comment-2129158 I was looking into some blood sun fun times. There was a blue moon type deck I am messing around with with blood sun and spreading seas instead of moon. Let’s you have a similar amount of lockdown but way more cantripping.

Then bbe got unbanned.

Temur sun.
For raw speed I am running simian spirit guides.
Spreading seas into bbe turn 3 into sun is alot of power and the deck just goes through so many cards.

Ancestral visions and goblin dark dwellers
Then just a bunch of burn spells and a few izzet charms.

The deck feels pretty good. Puts on alot more pressure then blue moon. Goblin rabblemaster and bbe are the main finishers (plus 2 dark dwellers and general burn)

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/#comment-2129157 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 05:23:41 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17300#comment-2129157 In reply to Graeme Holliday.

As I said, it’s a bit implausible. Not impossible, but not really likely.

I think it was more a case that the particular line was so convoluted and non-obvious that Cohen, even if he’d seen it, would never have been able to work it out while sitting at the table. As I remember the original poster said he’d spent quite a bit of time working through the turn in question and eventually found the line, but the fog of time makes it hard to say. It’s been three years and I just can’t find it, I’m not even sure where it was located. I did see some references to that thread but not a link, sorry.

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By: Graeme Holliday https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/#comment-2129156 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:35:02 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17300#comment-2129156 Small nitpick, Amulet can still win turn 2 with a god hand: 2 Amulets, Azusa + Titan (either or both can be replaced with a Summoner’s Pact), a land the enters untapped, and a bounce.

That’s so cool that Cohen could’ve won the PT with optimal play! I love the fact that the deck is so hard, that’s actually one of my favorite parts about it. I get bored of simple decks. If you could find the thread about Cohen’s line of play I would really appreciate it!

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By: Carlos Fidel Dallmeier https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/#comment-2129155 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 02:59:58 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17300#comment-2129155 For the amulet deck idea I think the deck should move from primeval titan and go fot the hive mind kill. Maybe some red and white pacts and the rest ramp…

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/#comment-2129154 Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:41:53 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17300#comment-2129154 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

It’s not a non-bo technically, but they accomplish the same thing so under a Sun Amulet does nothing.

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/02/the-spice-of-rivalry-brewing-with-rivals/#comment-2129153 Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:20:48 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17300#comment-2129153 Doesnt blood sun non-bo with amulet of vigor?

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