Comments on: Double Strike: GP Phoenix Analysis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/03/double-strike-gp-phoenix-analysis/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Thu, 22 Mar 2018 14:27:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: ben coley https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/03/double-strike-gp-phoenix-analysis/#comment-2129266 Thu, 22 Mar 2018 14:27:16 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17556#comment-2129266 In reply to Tiki Dan.

Interesting observation. Those bushwhacker-fuelled decks are quite different to burn, being “synergy” aggro decks whereas burn is all about redundancy. Burn spaffs a bunch of damage and then is the topdeck king (more or less everything is on plan for dealing damage) . Revolt decks need to do that early rush but then mainly fall flat if their initial wave of damage got outclassed somehow.

I like both strategies of course. Definitely both have their place in modern but really they occupy different spheres. Revolt zoo or 8-whack as many call it is more like Affinity, needing to draw beaters and enablers in the right order to bring the plan together. It’s much more glass cannon.

I can see why you’d compare them though. Both very aggressive. Burn has more of a versatile game plan overall though and has the option of playing a long game where 8-whack would struggle. Burn will always be the open-meta boogeyman whereas the zoo decks are more of a metagame call and swing in and out of playability.

If you’re seeing success with your list, power to you. Keep rocking it. Modern is all about choice and playing what you love. Love to the zoo strats

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By: Tiki Dan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/03/double-strike-gp-phoenix-analysis/#comment-2129265 Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:02:14 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17556#comment-2129265 I’ve found revolt zoo to succeed where burn fails. Flooding the board with 2/2s and 3/3 wild nectals is a lot more resilient in the face of lightning helix or collective brutality. Atarkas command is also still amazing despite burn no longer playing it.

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By: ben coley https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/03/double-strike-gp-phoenix-analysis/#comment-2129264 Wed, 21 Mar 2018 14:23:08 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17556#comment-2129264 Loving the fact that KCI continues to post reasonable results in modern. It’s a wacky fun deck and nice to see once in a while.

Phoenix looked like a great tournament. Lots of diverse magic happening and enough of a hint of a ‘deck to beat’ (jund) on the day to enable some light metagaming. Well, such as it’s ever possible to metagame in modern.

The said we’re still only a couple of weeks out from the unbans and it’s likely that with the time involved in trading and shipping for new decks, many people are only just getting around to testing BBE at a tournament setting for the first time. This is the difinitive honeymoon period for jace and BBE and we should naturally expect a slightly inflated presence of those cards in a tournament setting. It’ll naturally settle over time.

For instance there’s definitely some questionable uses of BBE being seen as she’s jammed into anything going. Scapeshift? Sure I guess, although from a testing and tuning perspective I’d say the longevity of that choice is up for debate. Again I’d expect modern to settle and certain ‘fresh includes’ work their way back to trade binders in the coming weeks.

Most of all it’s still modern, still fun and still the most diverse, rep-rewarding format out there. It’s a good time to be playing the format, still.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/03/double-strike-gp-phoenix-analysis/#comment-2129263 Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:36:06 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17556#comment-2129263 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

That’s what I was getting at, there’s no clear picture and a lot of different narratives. There certainly looks like there’s something here with Humans and Affinity returning when Jeskai is down while Bloodbraid is integral to large swaths of the field, but there’s an equal chance it’s just coincidence. It’s too early to tell. You could try to anticipate the changes, but it may be a complete waste of time.

We’ll have to disagree about Bloodbraid, the effect it has on decks and the field is far above Snapcaster’s wildest dreams.

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/03/double-strike-gp-phoenix-analysis/#comment-2129262 Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:11:17 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17556#comment-2129262 Or people just played what they felt like, ran into miscellaneous matchups, mostly fell in the 45 to 55 percent favoured/unfavoured spectrum and miscellaneous decks did well or poorly mostly based on the inidividual game elements.

Sometimes the story is that there isnt a story. Modern is diverse, most things can win, unfavourable matchups mostly arent as terrible as people think. I dont know if you cluster these maybe you see less linear more interactive (ie jace and bloodbraid effect) but the fortunes of individual decks seem fairly muddled. Everything did… ok?

I would caution comparing bbe to twin. Its better compared to snapcaster. Its a good card that provides value with minimal deckbuilding restrictions that lots of decks can play. It does not demand immediate or unusual answers, so if most rg decks play it thats fine? Like most ur decks play snapcaster or most gw decks play hierarch. Hell it may be that cascade means its even better considered like thoughtseize or serum visions – its just always helping your deck execute its plan at a very good rate (nevermind the variance)

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