Comments on: The Goblins Are Coming https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/04/the-goblins-are-coming/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:21:28 +0000 hourly 1 By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/04/the-goblins-are-coming/#comment-2129365 Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:21:28 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17787#comment-2129365 In reply to Renier Van Rooyen.

Planning to, but it keeps getting pushed onto the back burner by something more pressing.

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By: Renier Van Rooyen https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/04/the-goblins-are-coming/#comment-2129364 Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:11:46 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17787#comment-2129364 Goblin Matron – check
Goblin Ringleader – check
Time to revisit this one?

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/04/the-goblins-are-coming/#comment-2129363 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:27:14 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17787#comment-2129363 In reply to Zach Stackhouse.

If you’re running Rally it’s a very different deck from Goblin Bidding. Rally gives you a turn with your creatures while Bidding was permanent, meaning if you go with Rally you’re more all in on either an alpha strike or comboing off. That may be a viable deck, I don’t know, but it’s not a perfect analogue.

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By: Zach Stackhouse https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/04/the-goblins-are-coming/#comment-2129362 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:16:10 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17787#comment-2129362 In reply to David Ernenwein.

I don’t think we can underestimate prospector in 8whack. People were sometimes already running burning tree emissary to set up bushwhacker surges. Prospector keeps with tribal synergy and lowers the curve a bit in a deck that really wants that to happen while helping to pay both surge AND kicker.

Random question: why not try to recreate patriarch’s bidding with Rally the Ancestors in a RW goblins shell? Rally at X=3 is the same cost as bidding and offers and out against decks like jund when they stabilize. Plus that combo-type finish requires only two or three deck slots as opposed to the numerous more with fecundity builds. Sure RiP stops it, but then you can just board them out (chance for mind games!)

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By: Tommy Hoff Hansen https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/04/the-goblins-are-coming/#comment-2129361 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:03:04 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17787#comment-2129361 For the record, legacy goblins were a big thing once, and at that time goblins and merfolk shared enough similarities in build that whenever one deck was played, the other deck rose shortly afterwards. Both decks had a lot of “infights” at that period.

As far as I remember there was a deck called Hanni-fish at that period in time.
If you want to research the period you might start by researching hanni-fish.

No guarantee though 😀

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/04/the-goblins-are-coming/#comment-2129360 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:27:20 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17787#comment-2129360 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

Green also gets Collected Company, so I don’t think Messenger is much of a precedent. The more I try out Prospector the more impressive I find him. If Goblins is actually good this time, it’s going to be because of Prospector.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/04/the-goblins-are-coming/#comment-2129359 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:19:46 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=17787#comment-2129359 They gave us Sylvan Messenger, Goblin Ringleader isn’t out of the question. I’m not entirely sure what to make of the Prospector yet, but he likely has a place in any variant, given that he can allow you to get value out of any War Marshals whose echo costs you aren’t interested in paying and can de-clunkify any Bushwhacker hands that are one mana short.

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