Comments on: Jund’s Ugly Cousins: Hot Tech, Pt. 2

By: Turbocloud

Turbocloud — Mon, 14 May 2018 12:42:38 +0000

The BG List ist bursting of Synergy – being able to cast company into a planeswalker is really sweet – and all creatures he plays are there to ensure a fast flip of those flip-walkers: Banewhip Punisher, Fulminator Mage, Merciless Executioner, Thrashing Brontodon and Sakura-Tribe Elder can enable Liliana, with Sakura-Tribe Elder also preparing Nissa and synergizing with Tireless Tracker, too.
The Deck seems to be build to have a very synergistic value game – which the the more popular Vizier Company lacks due to the focus on the combo. The Big question is to what endgame – the Vizier Variant has the ability to race other combo decks – this doesn’t seem to have any sort of solid disruption and neither do i recognize any sort of fast clock. It may outshine a lot of decks at grinding – but it looks dead to spell/non-creature based combo.

I don’t think this is “better” than abzan on all areas – rather than “better” at grinding and worse being fast.

By: Francis John Guillem Gene-Rowe

Francis John Guillem Gene-Rowe — Sun, 13 May 2018 10:18:08 +0000

In reply to Jordan Boisvert. Tribe Elder is definitely feeding Nissa but I don't really think Nissa is a good enough payoff. I think Liliana is much more promising, hence I favour that open list.

By: Jordan Boisvert

Jordan Boisvert — Sat, 12 May 2018 18:19:36 +0000

In reply to David Ernenwein. A lot can 5-0 in Modern, we very well may be reading into this list!

By: David Ernenwein

David Ernenwein — Sat, 12 May 2018 17:40:18 +0000

In reply to Jordan Boisvert. STE also ramps you towards flipping Nissa, and can make clues with Tracker (though that's really marginal). This looks like a deck that is trying to be BG Pod and is compromising on all the pieces. I don't get how this is better than Abzan.

By: Jordan Boisvert

Jordan Boisvert — Sat, 12 May 2018 16:35:45 +0000

In reply to Francis John Guillem Gene-Rowe. I'll say that the deck seems quite good against Bogles! But I feel that with 4 Sakura-Tribe Elder, we might be missing something... just hard to tell why the little guy's so important. It flips Liliana, but then what?

By: Francis John Guillem Gene-Rowe

Francis John Guillem Gene-Rowe — Sat, 12 May 2018 14:50:11 +0000

I agree that the company list is a bit all over the place, but it wasn’t so long ago that this not entirely dissimilar (if much more focused) GB company list had some success at an open: http://sales.starcitygames.com/deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=119447 The grind + land destruction plan seems reasonable. I’m not so sure about tribe elder in this deck as I feel you want more mana sinks (read: more Tireless Trackers) for it to be worthwhile. I suppose it’s a bit like a colour shifted GW company with the angle of recurring edict effects.

By: Jordan Boisvert

Jordan Boisvert — Sat, 12 May 2018 02:29:42 +0000

In reply to Graeme Holliday. I dunno, I found in my experiments with Temur Traverse that the bullets can clog in hand when they aren't sitting in the deck for us to fish out at will (search MN for more on that). Traverse Shadow's subsequent success kind of drove the point home for me. I agree that bullets become more relevant in longer games, but I think this particular deck plays a bit too many!

By: Graeme Holliday

Graeme Holliday — Fri, 11 May 2018 22:53:32 +0000

I disagree that the “sideboard full of bullets is major overkill.” Traverse Shadow is a much faster deck than Jund, so it’s less likely to need answers. He definitely plays a few too many bullets, but overall, in any deck with tutors, having varied answers is way better in the sideboard because the tutor increases the effective number in your deck to 5 for a singleton.