Comments on: Spell-Based Brewing with Guilds of Ravnica https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129658 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:17:11 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129658 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Don’t worry, I plan to!

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By: Victor Len https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129657 Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:37:06 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129657 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Keep on brewing ! That is how you get to sweet and competitive decks like Colorless Eldrazi ! And keep giving us the thought process behind your brews, it is extremely valuable to any brewer. Thanks man.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129656 Sat, 15 Sep 2018 07:30:30 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129656 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

Unlike Flamewake, Arclight seemed like it could fit into the kinds of decks I actually like to play. I don’t mind building something less powerful than an existing strategy if I enjoy the mechanics—just look at all the time I’ve given Delver decks! I like messing around with new cards, so that was good enough for me.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129655 Sat, 15 Sep 2018 07:27:00 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129655 In reply to Alex Bonin.

Don’t know about much time, but I do proof my articles!

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By: Alex Bonin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129654 Sat, 15 Sep 2018 00:24:37 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129654 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

You got me…just teasin’ you.
At least it’s a bit less ubiquitous in the format now, which I always like when a pet card happens to be very good.

By the way, your handle on writing mechanics and economy of words, in your articles, is consistently strong—do you spend much time editing or do you usually nail those things first try?

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129653 Fri, 14 Sep 2018 23:56:23 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129653 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

There are a lot of cards in this set that just flat out don’t pass the sniff test for modern. You hopefully don’t need a few hours with blood operative to know that a 3/1 lifeline for 3 with a slow as molasses recursion engine on it isn’t good enough for modern.

Flamewake Phoenix is a fine comparable. Dies to same stuff as the new one, one less mana for one less power (generally one mana for one power would be considered a pretty bad exchange) a way, way easier condition to satisfy in ferocious and a red mana. We see four power creatures frequently in modern. We only see three instants or sorceries in one turn from combo decks during their combo turn.

I suppose anything can inspire you to try, but enigma drake is probably a better payoff for spells.dec than this. Notwithstanding that just looking at flamewake Phoenix – a niche one deck playable as is – could probably show you this new card isn’t going to make the cut. Barrier too high, payoff too low.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129652 Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:18:34 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129652 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

Yes, they were spoiled too late, but neither inspired me to build a deck around them regardless. What I didn’t like about Hollow is that the setup didn’t impact the board, while Phoenix’s can. Either way, my testing did come up short for Phoenix, as the article details! Good on you and others for realizing that without sinking a few hours into discovering why. I personally don’t mind doing the work on the chance I stumble upon something that works.

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129651 Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:09:36 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129651 I know free is always tempting but phoenix is awful. You dont like the setup cost of hollow one? Then how can you like the strictly way harder to meet setup cost of phoenix? First you have to drop it in the gy somehow, then cast Three! Noncreature spells in the same turn. Sure, youll always have a one mana, two mana, and manamorphose lying around. And when you blow this wad what do you get for your trouble? A frigging 32 flying haste??? Bro do u even bolt?

I would die of laughter watching someone go through all this just to get the bird surigcaled or bolted or pathed or pushed at the end of it all.

Im sure these were spoiled later than you wrote this but the uu surveil snapcaster and new rec sage are far more interesting in this format. Phoenix is about as likely to work in modern as the vraska pw is.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129650 Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:49:09 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129650 In reply to Alex Bonin.

That’s true, one of the decks has Goyf in it!

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By: Alex Bonin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2018/09/spell-based-brewing-guilds-ravnica/#comment-2129649 Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:30:52 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=18697#comment-2129649 Title should’ve been goyf-based brewing. lol

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