Comments on: Planes Talkers: War of the Spark Spoiler Review https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 24 Apr 2019 11:42:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Alec Wilson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130049 Wed, 24 Apr 2019 11:42:06 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130049 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

What; Not even an Eye that comes with Grizzly bears and Vindicate stapled on?
Thanks for the info, I always wondered what happened when you tried Wurmcoil, they seem so busted in some matches but I never got around to testing it myself.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130048 Tue, 23 Apr 2019 21:13:50 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130048 In reply to Alec Wilson.

No, way to expensive. Lattice is not a plan that will come out most of the time; just something decks like UW need to have on their radar against us that lets us punish reactive decks for not dealing with the walker. Having a 6-drop in the deck would never work.

I even tried 2 sideboard Wurmcoil Engine in some events while Jund Shadow was blowing up; resolving the Wurm was an instant-win against that deck. But with Powders and Simian Guides still in the deck, 6 proved too steep, and I was forced to cut it. Most Modern decks are also able to apply pressure like Jund Shadow can. But conversely, Resolving Ugin does not instant-win against any deck.

tldr: Eye of Ugin is a great effect at 0 mana. It’s not playable at 6.

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By: Alec Wilson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130047 Tue, 23 Apr 2019 05:36:20 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130047 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Ah gotcha, I thought you viewed it more as a general answer.
Do you like Ugin? As above, I think he might earn a slot in my 75.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130046 Mon, 22 Apr 2019 21:29:36 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130046 In reply to Alec Wilson.

Idk about a 3rd copy still, the price is just hella steep for Stompy. But that’s what I meant by “anti-aggro applications.”

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By: Alec Wilson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130045 Mon, 22 Apr 2019 16:00:21 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130045 Also it is nice that blast zone comes down and murders Noble Hierarch and Champion of the Parish / glistener elf / slippery Bogle instantly, so there are probably local metagames where it deserves a third copy.

It seems closer to Engineered Explosives than Ratchet Bomb – getting to the relevant 1-3 range sooner, but with greater mana investment.

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By: Alec Wilson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130044 Mon, 22 Apr 2019 15:47:23 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130044 Thoughts on the new Ugin?
Seems like a possible sideboard card in Eldrazi – if we’re already interested in getting to six, a card that helps us to grind while also taking out opposing problem cards (like a flier racing us or a teferi or a deaths shadow) seems like a nice flexible package.

But the corner cases are where it gets very sweet:
The fact that any scourges it flips are instantly castable for 1 mana (while keeping your spirit), and the fact it makes the lattice / karn combo ONLY COST 6 instead of 10 (meaning you can drop it and lock your opponent out instantly, as they are unlikely to be able to kill a 6 loyalty Ugin with a free blocker) mean I’m excited to give it a try.
Karn combo cost

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130043 Mon, 22 Apr 2019 09:17:30 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130043 In reply to Nicholas D..

Ooh you’re right, that “may” is in the wrong place. Well, that’s some utility gone…

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By: Nicholas D. https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130042 Sun, 21 Apr 2019 17:36:23 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130042 I don’t think Narset’s Reversal really does anything against Supreme Verdict. Sure, you bounced it, but you also had to copy it, so unless you have like, a niv magus elemental, it’s still happening.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130041 Sat, 20 Apr 2019 15:55:52 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130041 In reply to Major Tom.

The idea of Mill as Archive Trap.dec gels well with Modern’s status as a format boasting increasingly streamlined decks! Would love to see this succeed.

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By: Major Tom https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130040 Sat, 20 Apr 2019 12:15:10 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130040 In reply to El3X G.

I think Narsett’s reversal will work for mill decks. That deck wants a maximum number of mill spells, and there are few mill spells that are actually good. This card acts similar to mission briefing in that it can maximize the best mill spells for cheap. That archive trap just got cast twice for the low cost of UU and its STILL in the graveyard for mission briefing later in the game. That’s the only realistic mainboard deck I can see wanting 4 copies of this spell.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130039 Fri, 19 Apr 2019 19:30:53 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130039 In reply to El3X G.

Check the section again, I actually covered this!

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By: El3X G https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/04/planes-talkers-war-spark-spoiler-review/#comment-2130038 Fri, 19 Apr 2019 17:16:44 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=19935#comment-2130038 Hey there,

I think you’re missing a major component of Narset’s Reversal, which is hitting your own spells. nothing on the card says they have to be opponent’s spells.

Imagine hitting your own counterspells in a counterwar, redirecting the copy to the original target, getting the counter back and fizzling opponents counterspell. Gets around Dovin’s Veto too.

or imagine casting larger value spells (cryptic, kolaghan’s command, your own removal, even wraths etc), then holding priority, bouncing your own spell while copying it. it basically works like a Snapcaster Mage for spells in your hand.

The big downside compared to Remand is its limitation to instants and sorceries, which i think denies it any maindeck slots in blue control decks. But it could potentially be a very very good sideboard card for UWx, Grixis, UR decks etc.

Interested what you think about this!

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