Comments on: ‘Walk Your Pets: Re-Introducing TURBOGOYF https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Thu, 20 Jun 2019 06:43:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: Stephen Hagan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130106 Thu, 20 Jun 2019 06:43:51 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130106 In my games (15ish thus far) I’ve wondered if it needs a full four Faithless Looting. Not sure what I’d put in place of fourth. But theyve been awkward a few times

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130105 Sat, 15 Jun 2019 19:06:44 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130105 This deck is a blast to play. It’s the first time in a while I’ve been piloting a Gruul creature deck in Modern and have it feel legitimately powerful. I’m about 25 matches in with the exact same 60 and a slightly tweaked sideboard, and I can’t really think of much I would want to change. The only thing I’m wondering is if the deck could use a BBE in place of the second Hazoret, as it might be possible that the 1st copy of BBE is better than the second copy of Hazoret.

But yea, long story short, deck is sweet, and if you want to have fun dropping t2 blood moons on people in Modern, this is probably one of the best ways to do it

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By: WaywardWarsaw https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130104 Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:39:29 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130104 Any reason for not playing mishra’s bauble?

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By: Stephen Hagan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130103 Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:01:34 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130103 Love this and building it to give it a go. What role do you see the daredevils playing in the board? Was pondering burn and deaths shadow as places, but wasn’t 100% sure

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130102 Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:05:56 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130102 In reply to Matthew Rush.

Thought it went without saying, but Sprawl enchants basic forest 100% of the time.

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By: Matthew Rush https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130101 Wed, 05 Jun 2019 20:29:24 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130101 Worth noting your sprawls attached to non-basic forests will fall off when you land a blood moon.

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130100 Wed, 05 Jun 2019 15:10:47 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130100 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Is there any way a version of this deck could want Unearth at all? It cycles when it’s dead, and recurring any of the threat creatures besides Hazoret for only 1 Mana seems pretty dope. Plus a black splash would also let you run cards like collective brutality over feed the clan for the burn matchup.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130099 Wed, 05 Jun 2019 13:02:47 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130099 In reply to Steven Givens.

Double red is a tall order for a lot of decks, and I think these cards play slightly different roles. Even in Ponza I can see Tireless being better for certain matchups. But I agree that SP is probably great in that deck.

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130098 Mon, 03 Jun 2019 00:55:32 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130098 Also I proxied up some Seasoned Pyromancers in a regular ponza style deck (don’t judge me, I finally get to sleeve up pillage in modern haha), just straight swapping in for the playset of trackers, and it is just sooooo much better in almost every way. I feel like any decks that currently have trackers should just switch over assuming they can hit the double red.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130097 Sun, 02 Jun 2019 22:05:16 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130097 In reply to Steven Givens.

This deck keeps one-landers all the time. Fetch, Sprawl, Wrenn, replay the fetch, Bolt your guy, etc. But I’d say that in a deck with Looting, you don’t want to go too low on lands necessarily. You can always discard extras down the road.

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130096 Sun, 02 Jun 2019 17:44:38 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130096 Yea, Wrenn seems amazing. I also feel that if you’re running 3-4 Wrenns you can shave on some number of lands because the +1 lets you keep using the same fetch, but I don’t know how you would go about estimating the exact number you could cut…where’s Frank Karsten when you need him haha

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130095 Sun, 02 Jun 2019 13:02:40 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130095 In reply to Steven Givens.

Hex is cool and I actually tried it in this deck in place of one Spellskite for a time. But Wrenn was so much better that I moved to two copies pretty fast. Here, Hex was always just a 2/1; we have so much other stuff to do with our mana that I never even grew it, making it a bad fit.

But I know of some RUG Delver players who enjoy the card as a 3-of in the Mandrills-Scour-Shoal builds. They argue that having a turn-one play is very important, even if it’s just a two-power creature, and that Hex is a powerful topdeck. I’ve experimented with two-power threats in RUG before and have always been unimpressed (which led me to brew Counter-Cat some 4 years ago: http://quietspeculation.com/delver-teeth-introducing-counter-cat/ ). I’ll certainly retract my skepticism if I see it place somewhere, though!

tl;dr: not a great rate, and doesn’t seem to have a home, but may surprise us.

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By: Pierre Tisserant https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130094 Sun, 02 Jun 2019 08:50:13 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130094 In reply to Steven Givens.

There is a very close relative, in modern too to boot : Figure of Destiny. Hexdrinker cost less mana overall for somewhat better abilities, but they work rather similarly.

I don’t predict him a big future in aggro decks, because there is almost alway something better to do with the mana, but who know ? And perhaps it will have an oddball use. Maybe a tron player will try it in sideboard or something to that extent.

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/05/walk-your-pets-re-introducing-turbogoyf/#comment-2130093 Sat, 01 Jun 2019 20:13:53 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20169#comment-2130093 What do you think about Hexdrinker? Not specifically with regards to this deck, but more in general. I’m having a lot of issues trying to figure out how good that card is, as it really is unlike almost any creature I’ve ever seen.

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