Comments on: Grave Concerns: GP Minneapolis Analysis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/08/grave-concerns-gp-minneapolis-analysis/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:23:31 +0000 hourly 1 By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/08/grave-concerns-gp-minneapolis-analysis/#comment-2130157 Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:23:31 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20521#comment-2130157 In reply to Steven Givens.

In my experience those decks didn’t work in Modern. They tend to be reliant on the 4-mana enchantment to do anything worthwhile and frequently ran out of answers without really accomplishing anything. If you can solve that problem, then you’d be onto something in the current meta.

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/08/grave-concerns-gp-minneapolis-analysis/#comment-2130156 Wed, 14 Aug 2019 04:23:53 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20521#comment-2130156 The first place my mind went is something like the Sultai Reclamation decks that have been floating around since Wilderness Reclamation was printed. You’re already running 4 cryptics that can be fog effects, and I could easily see adjusting the deck into maining a decent number of fog effects, relying on the Mystical Teachings/Wilderness Reclamation engine to sort of hold everything together.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/08/grave-concerns-gp-minneapolis-analysis/#comment-2130155 Tue, 13 Aug 2019 17:05:18 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20521#comment-2130155 In reply to Steven Givens.

It’s certainly possible.
The issue is whether such a deck can beat any other deck. Turbo-fog dominated aggro decks a few Standards ago but couldn’t really beat control or midrange, and I suspect it will have the same problem in Modern, only worse since there are also combo decks and Tron to consider. Having such a narrow maindeck attack thus puts a lot of stress on the sideboard and I don’t know if it could handle the pressure. To make it work would require a turbo-fog deck unlike any I’ve ever seen. But it could be done.

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2019/08/grave-concerns-gp-minneapolis-analysis/#comment-2130154 Tue, 13 Aug 2019 16:46:46 +0000 http://quietspeculation.com/?p=20521#comment-2130154 I’ve been wondering…if 20-25+ percent of the meta is going to be a deck with no reach, (usually) no hand disruption, and an inability to win through any other method than attacking…isn’t that typically the times in formats when a turbo-fog style strategy can have a chance of spiking some events? And since in theory, that style of deck would essentially not need to sideboard much, if at all against Hogaak (and any other similar strategy lacking interactions against fog effects like Dredge), that would free up the sideboard to shore up your other matchups instead.

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