Comments on: Wild Speculation: MH2 Speculation, Part 2 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2020/12/wild-speculation-mh2-speculation-part-2/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Fri, 18 Dec 2020 18:56:17 +0000 hourly 1 By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2020/12/wild-speculation-mh2-speculation-part-2/#comment-2130341 Fri, 18 Dec 2020 18:56:17 +0000 https://quietspeculation.com/?p=22446#comment-2130341 In reply to Steven Givens.

Without Elephant Grass and more importantly Serra’s Sanctum, Legacy Enchantress couldn’t be a thing in Modern. That doesn’t necessarily make a lot of the core enchantments ok (Enduring Ideal is absolutely infuriating to play against) but the Enchantress’ themselves might be ok.

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2020/12/wild-speculation-mh2-speculation-part-2/#comment-2130340 Fri, 18 Dec 2020 16:00:07 +0000 https://quietspeculation.com/?p=22446#comment-2130340 Yea, Crop Rotation being an instant is a little bit busted, I will agree. What do you think about them putting in some of the core cards from legacy enchantress? Stuff like Sterling Grove, Argothian Enchantress, Enchantress’ Presence, Wild Growth, etc.? I feel like those would all be relatively safe, as other than Wild Growth, I don’t see a current deck that wants those cards. Those are probably the safest kind of reprints IMO, the ones that expand the *potential* pool of playable decks, rather than just boost pre-existing ones.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2020/12/wild-speculation-mh2-speculation-part-2/#comment-2130339 Fri, 18 Dec 2020 08:16:48 +0000 https://quietspeculation.com/?p=22446#comment-2130339 In reply to Steven Givens.

Crop Rotation is one of those that’s definitely a lot worse in Modern than Legacy, but I’m not sure it’s ok. Any instant speed tutor is potentially very dangerous, and given that it’s one mana there’s potential for something busted to happen. Or at least some absurd value from Flagstones of Trokair.

It’s actually not that hard to make Pyrokinesis absurdly powerful, thanks to all the card drawing red’s gotten recently. Legacy Goblins uses it as a creature match breaker and it is devastating there. I’m not a fan of a manaless sweeper.

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By: Steven Givens https://www.quietspeculation.com/2020/12/wild-speculation-mh2-speculation-part-2/#comment-2130338 Fri, 18 Dec 2020 03:45:31 +0000 https://quietspeculation.com/?p=22446#comment-2130338 In reply to Abon.

I think crop rotation would be…interesting in Modern. Without Dark Depths, without Cloudpost, without Tabernacle, I don’t think it would break the format in half or anything. I’m not sure if any of the Field of the Dead/Prime Time decks would run it because they already don’t have issues finding the lands they need between Titan, Reclaimer, Tolarian West, Hour of Promise, and Scapeshift (depending on what exact deck it is). That leaves green Tron as the main beneficiary, giving them another way to assemble Tron. Well, I guess Infect too maybe…being able to run up to 8 copies of Inkmoth Nexus seems like something they’d be in the market for, similar to legacy Infect. But…I feel like Tron and Infect especially aren’t really tearing it up in Modern right now, so I don’t know.

Now as far as red cards, what do people think about Pyrokinesis? It can be a free-ish instant speed sweeper, but requires a heavy red commitment, which tends to be fulfilled mainly by the sorts of decks that *aren’t* interested in that sort of effect.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2020/12/wild-speculation-mh2-speculation-part-2/#comment-2130337 Wed, 16 Dec 2020 18:04:50 +0000 https://quietspeculation.com/?p=22446#comment-2130337 In reply to Abon.

I know how it looks, but rest assured I had my list together well before the first article.

Tithe is reserved list, unfortunately, or I’d have gone for it over Land Tax. Funnily enough, Aaron Forsythe initially put Tithe into 9th Edition because he didn’t know it was reserved either. It’s why we got Gift of Estates instead.

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By: Abon https://www.quietspeculation.com/2020/12/wild-speculation-mh2-speculation-part-2/#comment-2130336 Wed, 16 Dec 2020 17:22:21 +0000 https://quietspeculation.com/?p=22446#comment-2130336 Haha, it’s like the comments on the first part precipitated the second because there were some pretty incoherent picks, like some/any of the mirage block tutors and various cards that have been enabled gross/iffy business over the last thirty years.

I don’t have the reserved list memorized, so maybe some/all of these are on it, but:
Tithe, Rising Waters and Plague Spitter(maybe downshifting the latter’s rarity too hehe).
Silver Knight would be pretty cool.
Eternal Dragon seems incredibly safe—maybe a updated eternal dragon? 3WW for a 3/5 instead and 2W to return it, during upkeep?

Saltiness about how fond the r&d team is of giving all-the-colours decks new toys notwithstanding, they did a pretty good job with reinventing old school fun-police cards with the first Modern Horizons, so the second will probably not disappoint. Force of Negation was pure genius…seriously. Such a great addition to the format.

Just one card that’s half as excellent and I’d be happy.

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