Comments on: Fate Reforged Spoilers 1/5/15 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 06 Jan 2015 03:14:34 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mon I. https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337507 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 03:14:34 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337507 In reply to Jason Alt.

Evasion on the Fiend is nice, but the casting cost is just too restrictive. 5B vs. 7BB might seem small if you’re on the delve plan, but it’s a difference of getting the card out on the battlefield a turn or two sooner (with less delve setup.) If you get to untap w/ Tasigur on turn 4 (i.e. turn 2 Satyr Wayfinder > turn 3 Tasigur), you can swing for four, or start activating his ability for more cards. If you draw him late game, you can immediately mill for more cards on the same turn (…whereas the Fiend will just see play mid to late game, hoping to blank an opposing attacker and not much else.)

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337316 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 00:18:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337316 In reply to Mon I..

You don’t think the flying and removal (admittedly a nonbo with his delve) on fiend make him a better choice? A 4/5 with no evasion is pretty durdly and you won’t want to draw multiples the way you do with Siege Rhino.

Regardless, if this does see some play, it seems likely it would be in a post-rotation environment. That would actually be an ideal outcome – let the card hit bulk status where people who believe in the card can scoop armloads for nothing.

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By: Mon I. https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337289 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 23:54:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337289 I personally think that a 1 or 2-of Tasigur is > Soulflayer or Necrofiend

Why it’s worth a 2nd look:

1. Ease of casting – Delve for 5B will often be B – 2B which is quite undercosted for its…

2. Good base stats – 4|5 dodges Stoke, Strike, Blight, and punches through Courser 🙂

3. Repeatable source of card advantage. On a stalled board, this could just sit back and activate for 4cc eot for a free spell (albeit the worst one, assuming your opponent knows what he/she is doing). You don’t even get blown out if you choose to activate the 2nd ability tapped out as you still get a card back regardless.

4. This could either go to U/B control or B/G devo-whip decks (but most likely the former.) In tandem with delve spells in heavy circulation in standard like DTT and Murderous cut, you can sculpt your yard to get back a more relevant card with each activation.

As somebody who’s been playing a lot of U/W Heroic during Khans, I can’t wait (to possibly switch to U/B and…) playtest Tasigur. I think that its one of those cards (along w/ Crux and Ugin) that will push the archetype to the top.

Speaking of Ugin…

5. (The artificially inflated) 6cc on Tasigur dodges X=5 sweeps and below from Ugin 😀

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337170 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:08:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337170 In reply to Steve.

What do you like about it?

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337169 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:08:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337169 In reply to Ethan.

Yeah, I realize when I said “this” the “it” later in the sentence makes it seem like I meant the spell not the creature. I knew that but did a shitty job conveying that.

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By: Jason Alt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337163 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:05:42 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337163 In reply to Ethan.

Correct. I meant “at the cost of being able to summon a second creature because you’re using your mana to improve the first one you played”

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By: Dustin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337132 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 21:40:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337132 First off it says 1 5 14 as the date welcome to 2015 guys also it becomes a 3/3 not a 4/4 I see why these are free I usually enjoy your stuff also not so much this

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By: Steve https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337109 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 21:14:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337109 Oof that review on Tasigur. Who writes this crap?

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By: HelloHi! https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337106 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 21:11:07 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337106 In reply to Ethan.

…….I see nothing gets by you…..

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By: Ethan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337092 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 20:57:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337092 Arcbond doesn’t care about getting lifelink. Arcbond itself doesn’t actually deal any damage, the creature which took the damage does, so Arcbond having lifelink isn’t actually going to gain you anything.

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By: Ethan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337090 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 20:56:44 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337090 In reply to George.

George, if you activate the first ability, you’re not playing a creature on two. That’s why it’s “at the cost of a second creature”.

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By: George https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/fate-reforged-spoilers-1514/#comment-337072 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 20:41:24 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55395#comment-337072 I think you’re reading the abilities completely wrong. You don’t need a second creature to activate it’s first ability, it just becomes a 3/3 with 2 creature types. The second ability makes it a 3/3 with trample and life link and 3 creature types, and the 3rd ability let’s you start adding counters based on it having the Spirit creature type.

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