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Most days, I'm able to put together an article that comes together nicely. This week, it was like pulling teeth.

I had originally gone through and attempted to interview a few members of the Magic-league.com site about the now-popular UR PyroTwin deck. You know, the one that made splinter twin go from 0.50 rare to 8.00 rare? The deck that resparked interest in Pyromancer Ascension. Yeah, seems no one really wanted to talk about it. Irritating is putting it lightly.

What people do continue to talk about though is the continued dominance of caw-blade. Luckily the UR PyroTwin deck has a decent match up against it, at least in its current incarnation. What does that all mean? Trade for either card if you can, but trade away both at marked up prices while you're able to get the most out of it.

If you're looking to sell; it looks like e-bay is the way to go. There are a number of listings that have sold for $30 - $37 in the past few days. Most vendors are buying it between $4 and $6. With a card selling this high on unproven results outside of magic-league, this is most likely the high point or very close to it.

Pyromancer Ascension has also doubled in price since last week, and come back down a bit already. Most of them can be had for between $2 and $3, so the opportunities to sell these off is looking grim. Your best bet here is to trade them off to people who still need them.

Deceiver Exarch seems to have stabilized near the $0.50 each mark, up from $0.07 each under a week ago. I would continue to trade for them at the pre-release if they are to be had for under $0.20. The real money for these cards is the foil ones. 4x foil sets of the card have been selling for $14 to $30 on e-bay, putting the price per foil between $4 and $7. Picking them up for $3 each if fair for the time being, but only if you can find someone interested in buying them quickly to avoid taking a potential loss if the deck doesn't live up to expectations.

My foil common to be on the lookout for is Gitaxian Probe. 4x foil copies of the card have been selling for between $26 and $42, putting their average even higher than Deceiver Exarch, near $7 and $10 each. If you're lucky you will be able to find people that only value them at $3 each for foil ones, but I feel just fine offering up to $4.50 each on them.

The final card to be on the watch for this weekend is Tempered Steel. While not yet popular, the Steel Weenie deck has been making some appearances in ML trials and 8-mans, and has a decent investment opportunity if they can be had for $1 - $1.50.

Since people didn't want to talk to me this week about the deck and where it could go from here, I'm going to give you guys a problem to help solve.

Someone you know has been away from the game for some time, say two years. They have $400 to work with and a 4x play set of Lorwyn block. The individual will play standard or legacy, plays usual FNM's, occasional PTQ's, and will attend 2 opens for the remainder of the year. The shop's schedule for four weeks is; standard, standard, draft, legacy.

How do you help your friend?

Leave your thoughts below in the comments, I'm interested in what you think they should do and why.

Until next week,

Stephen Moss

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Stephen Moss

Stephen Moss currently lives in Lancaster, CA, is a usual PTQ grinder in the southwest region and working on his Masters in Business Administration. He has an obsession with playing League of Legends when not working on articles or school work. His articles often take on a business minded tone, and usually contain information applicable to magic trading as well as real world business.

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4 thoughts on “Working With What You Have

  1. I'm not sure I understand the question as stated: How do you help your friend?

    What is the objective? To maximize his Magic playing? To increase his collection? To be competitive in one aspect? All aspects?

    I would recommend that your friend sell his cards and draft exclusively, but I don't really know what he wants 😛

  2. You help your friend find a dealer that can flip complete sets, 90% of Lorwyn Block has next to no trade value, they "missed the boat". The 400 could easily be used to assemble pyrotwin and dredge with money left over to pay for a few drafts.

  3. With a 4x Lorrwyn block your friend should make good value and trade his Merfolk staples and build legacy combo elves. (Reasonably priced, will already have some of the cards) As for standard, swap all those planeswalkers and Commander playables for Chapins new assault strobe red deck.

  4. You can sell a complete set (one of each card) of lorwyn for upwards of 100 bucks. So take your $600+ from selling the complete sets of lorwyn block and take the full $1000 to help your friend build legacy dredge, standard RB vampires or valakut, and then invest the rest in good legacy staples to help construct a trade binder for them that is viable.

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