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The State of Magic Online

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I was doing research for an article (a thing I do sometimes) and while I was trying to figure out what the current flashback draft format was, I came across a website that I wasn't aware existed.

This is the website in question.

Now, if I played Magic Online, I would likely have been all over this already. Or not, I guess. I mean, this entire article is predicated on you not necessarily knowing about it, otherwise it would be worthless to point it out to you. OK, so even if I played more Magic Online, I probably wouldn't be all over this and I would be super eternally grateful to whomever showed it to me. There. Anyway, the point is, I never liked MODO that much, and then they made it worse.

How much worse, I pretend you ask? Well, Version 4 is responsible for this dandy little bug.

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Most of you are aware of it; if your opponent bestows Spirespine onto a creature and attacks, it tries to make you block with tapped creatures and wigs the game out and then you get drunk.

You may think Worth and company is entirely unaware of the problem due to their inability to get it fixed expeditiously. You'd be wrong, oh, you'd be dead wrong. They're on top of it.

Continuing Spirespine Issues

During last week's downtime, we deployed a fix to address the Spirespine illegal blocker error on Magic Online. We've discovered that, while the issue is no longer occurring in most situations, there are still edge cases where the illegal blocker error is preventing games from progressing. We are currently investigating further and are planning to deploy a fix during the Wednesday, October 22, downtime that should eliminate the issue completely.

See? They're all over it! They plan to have the issue, an issue stemming from a card from a card from Journey into Nyx (and not Khans of Tarkir or M15) fixed a mere month from now. It's almost like they're TOO GOOD at their jobs.

So, rest easy, folks. Help is on the way. If you'd like to be on top of these developments in the future, the page I linked is updated regularly so you can cruise over there at regular intervals to check out what's being drafted, what products are phasing out of the store and why they haven't fixed the Spirespine bug yet.

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Jason Alt is a value trader and writer. He is Quiet Speculation's self-appointed web content archivist and co-captain of the interdepartmental dodgeball team. He enjoys craft microbrews and doing things ironically. You may have seen him at magic events; he wears black t-shirts and has a beard and a backpack so he's pretty easy to spot. You can hear him as co-host on the Brainstorm Brewery podcast or catch his articles on Gatheringmagic.com. He is also the Community Manager at BrainstormBrewery.com and writes the odd article there, too. Follow him on Twitter @JasonEAlt unless you don't like having your mind blown.

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Six Nice Things About MTGO Version 4

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Like so many others, I'm not a fan of MTGO version 4. I tried the Beta a few times with little success, and when the shutdown of version 3 came in July, I tried a Cube draft and found myself dealing with a completely unresponsive and non-functional client. It was a very negative experience, and it resulted in me shutting down MTGO for more than two months. Yesterday, I wrote about the broken PTQ and the less-than-stellar responses to it by MTGO management. This stuff is unacceptable, clearly.

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But Khans of Tarkir is now online, and dammit, the format is a lot of fun. Last weekend, I booted up MTGO for the first time in months and played two Sealed events. My total record was a not-too-stellar 5-3, but what really matters to me at this point is how the client ran.

I'm relieved to say that I made it out of the two events without too much of a problem. The client was laggy and generally slow to respond, but it only crashed once and reloaded quickly. The cards still look absolutely awful, but at least all of the artwork loaded this time. Events still inexplicably open in new windows, but at least I didn't accidentally drop by closing one of them. All in all, not having to file for compensation is a success with this client.

It's easy to pile on the MTGO team for this nearly universally hated piece of software, but it's important to remember that these are people who are actually trying to do a good job. Presumably they all love Magic, and they want to see it succeed. So I'm going to list six things that are objective improvements over the previous client. Yes, version 4 is worse than version 3 in many ways, but at least it has these facts going for it:

1. Keep or Mulligan?

The old client asked whether you would like to mulligan your hand, and the options it gave were "yes" and "no." Many a player has mistakenly thought, "Yes, I'd like to keep this hand," clicked yes, and mulliganed. Thankfully, the new client has buttons that say specifically "keep" and "mulligan," which simplifies things significantly. This is an improvement that will result in fewer misclicks.

2. Showing the Turn Number in a Reliable Location

In version 3, the turn number was only available in the game log, meaning that you would often have to search a wall of text in order to figure out which turn you were on. The new version of MTGO lists the turn number right next to the steps and phases bar, meaning you can always figure out if this is turn five or six at a glance.

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3. Holding "M" to Make Mana Tapping Easier

If you just need colorless mana, you can hold "M" on the keyboard while clicking your dual lands to have MTGO auto-select the first color listed on the card. Yes, this would be even more helpful if you didn't have to hold down the key and the program would just auto-tap duals after all colored mana costs were paid for a spell, but it is an improvement over version 3, regardless.

4. Avatars and Life Totals are Bigger

It's a small thing, but if we're going to be able to customize our avatars, they should at least be big enough to discern what they portray, right? This was not the case on version 3, but version 4 has increased avatar and life total size:

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5. Building While You Draft

One of the biggest improvements with version 4 is that you can build your deck while you draft. Being able to sideboard some copies of a card, decide on cuts while drafting the last pack, and maintain your progress after the draft is complete is one of the most important improvements made between the two versions of MTGO. Being able to see who you are passing to or being passed to by is nice, too.

6. Being Able to Group Creatures Separately with a Click

Most players build their decks with creatures and spells grouped separately, and MTGO version 4 adds a nice little functionality that handles separation automatically. It saves a few seconds, and those seconds add up (although ultimately get lost in the wait between rounds, I suppose).

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If You Can't Say Something Nice...

There's not a lot of good to be said about MTGO version 4, but little things like this can at least give us the hope of a possibility of a chance that this program is headed in the right direction. Now, if we could just get small issues like basic functionality and stability addressed...

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Insider: MTG Stock Watch 10/5/14

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Welcome back readers/speculators to another MTG Stock watch. As usual we'll begin with our "Penny Stocks" section.

Penny Stocks

#1 Searing Blaze - Player Rewards (+206.7%) - With the recent success of burn decks, courtesy of Eidolon of the Great Revel, it's not that surprising that the original Searing Blood of Modern has seen an uptick in demand. The artwork is gorgeous and with the discontinuation of the Player Rewards program shortly after this one's release there just aren't as many out in circulation as you'd think.

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#2 Hornet Queen - M15 (+144.7%) - With the resurgence of green as the dominant color of Standard, coupled with the fact that the mono-green devotion deck lost very little at rotation (mainly Garruk) it's no surprise that Hornet Queen has gone up in demand so drastically. My past FNM I actually played a Jund Monsters build running two of her; she won me two games by stalling the board until I was able to bring bigger threats to the table.

Her high CMC does usually mean she's a one- or two-of (not a four-of) so her price ceiling is somewhat limited. Still, if you picked any up at $1.50, a nice 144% profit is nothing to sneeze at.

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#3 Jeskai Ascendency - Khans of Tarkir (+95.1%) - This one is no surprise either. It's blown up as a powerful and consistent Modern combo deck. There is concern about WoTC issuing a quick ban on the card (the Modern combo deck has proven it can pull off turn two wins, which WoTC is very much against for the format). I do think they'll let the metagame adapt a bit to see if it really will be oppressive, but if I had any foil copies of these, I'd out them now while people are still clamoring to build the deck.

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#4 Deflecting Palm - Khans of Tarkir (+26.4%) - This card debuted in the Jeskai Burn deck that won the first SCG Open post-Khans (and put another pilot into Top 8). It serves as an excellent foil to the deck's main problem, which is getting outclassed quickly (their biggest creature is a 3/3 flyer). Deflecting Palm can provide the quick psuedo burn spell needed to win before the opponent can stabilize or it can be used to save a creature from taking lethal damage.

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#5 Anger of the Gods - Theros (+25.9%) - This is likely a change forced by the emergence of the previously mentioned Jeskai Burn deck, whose entire creature base have a toughness under 3 (most of the time). Anger provides a nice turn three sweeper that can kill all the mana dorks currently seeing play as well as the hyper aggressive creatures currently being played. It even allows a Courser to survive through it, making it an excellent addition to G/R Devotion or various GRx monster decks.

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Blue Chip Stocks

Now let's look over our Legacy staple/blue chip stocks.

#1 Bayou - Revised (+3.53%) - This isn't wholly unexpected. The BUG style decks have been picking up steam recently and made up the entire Top 4 of the last SCG Legacy event. Black-green is a good color combination for Legacy right now.

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#2 Force of Will - Alliances (-3.37%) - With an increase in BUG and Elf decks, the amount of decks that can two-for-one themselves to prevent a key spell from resolving takes a hit. Force of Will, while often considered a sacred cow for many decks, is the first card sided out in a lot of match ups. It has no home in Elves or Death and Taxes both of which have had strong showings this past year (especially Elves).

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#3 Show and Tell - Urza's Saga (-2.38%) - This one's not a surprise either. While the power level of the Show and Tell decks is very high, they have to hit their combo quickly, and sometimes just durdle until they die. To make matters worse, resolving a Show and Tell or Sneak Attack through countermagic and/or hand disruption is getting more difficult--many decks, including Elves, are now splashing black for Thoughtseize to force the Show and Tell player to dig for extra missing combo pieces.

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#4 Taiga - Revised (-1.59%) - Zoo is still seeing almost no play in Legacy and this dual is basically reserved to Charbelcher decks if it sees any play at all. It's still a strong EDH land (as it has green in it), but even in EDH red is considered one of the weaker colors. It's also important to notice that like many of the duals (that all spiked back in March/April of 2014) this one overall is continuing its downward trend.

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#5 Wasteland - Tempest (-1.37%) - With a rise in Elves the Legacy decks looking to deny their opponents any resources are having a hard time keeping Wasteland afloat. When the current bogeyman of the format plays a lot of forests and mana dorks, destroying a non-basic land isn't the place to be. While it does destroy the Gaea's Cradles which are often key to a fast Elves win, it doesn't shut them down outright like against land-light or mana-intensive decks.

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One interesting thing to note is how these staples have often waffled between going up one week and down the next. While the overall trend is still clearly negative across the board, this type of up/down behavior actually lends some credibility to the thought that they might be stabilizing in price.

Value Stocks

Our previous value stocks are finally starting to gain some traction as players realize that while fetchlands are good in Standard, scrylands are even better. Fetchlands offer untapped mana fixing at a low price (one life) and provide a card in the graveyard, but they don't provide continuous mana fixing (i.e. if I have a Bloodstained Mire on turn one that I crack for a Swamp to play Thoughtseize, I can't cast Eidolon of the Great Revel on turn two because I don't have double red).

While this seems obvious it's really only showing itself by the general positive trends we're seeing in all the temples right now. All of the Theros Temples show upward growth (which is somewhat surprising given that those are the most numerous temples). Temple of Malice from Born of the Gods has shown the most growth while the more expensive two (Enlightenment and Plenty) have remained relatively stable. Both Temple of Epiphany and Temple of Malady have had steady growth since the Khans release and if you picked up the Epiphany's when I first started this series you'd have doubled up by now.

Last but not least is Mana Confluence, my #1 pick for four weeks (two articles) running. It has gone from a $10 card to a $17 card--not quite the percentage jump as Epiphany, but still an impressive 70% gains in less than two months.

Growth Stocks

Finally we get to our growth stocks. We see a major hit for Innistrad, which may be an indication that people who previously wanted it for Snapcaster's or Liliana's are now fearing a reprint of sorts. This is somewhat ironic given that Avacyn Restored saw an uptick of 7.6% despite the fact that the previously #1 most desired card (Griselbrand) was already announced as the next GP promo.

Mirrodin Besieged also took a pretty big hit within the past two weeks. I can only imagine it's a delayed effect from the inclusion of Sword of Feast and Famine in the Modern decks. As it was the chase card of the set, the uptick in supply has pushed people away from wanting to purchase boxed product.

Lastly we see Zendikar also taking a pretty big hit. This one isn't surprising given the ROI on a pack of Zendikar took a big hit with the announcement of the Onslaught fetches (afterall, it's much less enticing to crack a $50 Scalding Tarn then it is to crack an $85 Scalding Tarn).

Week of 10/05/14 Box Most Recent Completed Auction Second Most Recent Third Most Recent Fourth Most Recent New Average Avg comparison
Innistrad $177.50 $172.49 $169.49 $168.99 $172.12 -13.22%
Dark Ascension $99.99 $99.99 $99.99 $82.00 $95.49 3.66%
Avacyn Restored $135.00 $133.00 $139.00 $144.99 $138.00 7.61%
Scars of Mirrodin $187.99 $169.99 $147.50 $169.00 $168.62 0.07%
Mirrodin Besieged $138.49 $117.49 $145.99 $127.00 $132.24 -25.23%
New Phyrexia $294.90 $280.00 $295.00 $349.99 $304.97 -4.97%
Zendikar $405.33 $455.00 $499.00 $405.00 $441.08 -10.68%
Worldwake $622.00 $659.99 $740.00 $621.00 $660.75 -1.25%
Rise of the Eldrazi $625.00 $490.00 $485.00 $510.00 $527.50 -2.37%

Insider: Delving in Every Format

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I have a tendency to get tunnel vision. It's one of my greatest weaknesses as a player and as a person.

When I first started thinking about Khans of Tarkir's delve cards, I got too focused on the fact that delve enablers such as Jace, the Living Guildpact aren't all that good while completely missing the fact that delve as a mechanic is totally busted. I was focusing on things that didn't matter while simultaneously ignoring history. Never mind that "free" mechanics and reduced costs for powerful effects have been historically strong. All one really needs to do in order to see how good Khans' lot of delve cards is dust off one of these:

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There was a time when people were lining up to take eight damage off of Dark Confidant just to cast a two mana 5/5 flier.

Concentrate, Ancestral Memories and Murder are all playable in their own right, and getting a discount on them just has to be good. I would feel more foolish were I playing in New Jersey or Indianapolis without adopting Treasure Cruise, but I still feel foolish having not given them much thought even not having had the opportunity to put those thoughts into practice.

The cat is out of the bag now, and there's no sense in bemoaning not being the first one to the party. All there is left to do now is shotgun a beer and jump right into things.

Legacy: Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time

You've all seen Bob Huang's open winning deck by now. But it's worth another look.

Bob Huang's Legacy Izzet Delver

creatures

4 Delver of Secrets
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Young Pyromancer

spells

1 Chain Lightning
2 Forked Bolt
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Ponder
4 Treasure Cruise
4 Brainstorm
4 Daze
4 Force of Will
4 Lightning Bolt

lands

1 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Mountain
4 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Volcanic Island
1 Wooded Foothills

Carsten Kotter called it before the first Legacy tournament where Khans was even played--four Treasure Cruise isn't just a thing. It's the thing.

I haven't played a game of Legacy with Treasure Cruise yet, so I only have theoretical points to make about this deck and the format. I can't say either way how I feel about Monastery Swiftspear, but I will say that there is a gaping hole in this deck where the Wasteland or Price of Progress should be.

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The reason that Wasteland was disregarded in this deck is that it was built to just burn. That's all well and good, but if that's the case, why not play what is contextually the most efficient burn spell in Legacy? The closer you stay to Bob's list, the more I recommend Price of Progress.

As for how I want to approach the deck, I'm a Wasteland man and I am likely always to be. Wasteland helps you build towards Treasure Cruise while interacting in a very meaningful way, in addition to, you know, being Wasteland.

Going forward, I think that this deck would benefit from access to True-Name Nemesis. It won't be long before we see Abrupt Decay decks with four Treasure Cruises, and having a more resilient threat will go a long way in actually closing games.

On that note, the inevitable uptick in fair blue decks will likely lead to more True-Name Nemesises in general. Given the nature of how WotC is printing the Commander deck that contains True-Name Nemesis, it's hard to say that there's any money to be made on the card in the near future, but if Treasure Cruise is still legal when Mind Seize goes out of print, you can definitely expect the card to appreciate significantly over time.

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Notably, Bob's deck does what Nimble Mongoose decks have been doing for years by getting threshold just by playing Magic. All that's left to do is figure out if your blue deck would rather have Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time.

Fair decks will likely stick to Treasure Cruise, but combo could certainly play both spells. I for one find the idea of Sneak and Show with even greater card selection unsettling.

Vintage: Treasure Cruise

The Monday night following Bob Huang's Legacy win, I showed up to the local Vintage tournament looking over my Izzet Delver deck and trying to make room for Treasure Cruise. Hawthorne thought I was just being a jackass, but I knew that one copy was certainly acceptable and wanted to try and make two work. I cut the second Vendilion Clique from the deck and battled with this:

Vintage Izzet Delver

creatures

4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Vendilion Clique

spells

3 Lightning Bolt
1 Fire // Ice
4 Force of Will
2 Spell Pierce
1 Flusterstorm
1 Treasure Cruise
4 Gush
4 Preordain
4 Mental Misstep
1 Misdirection
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
1 Steel Sabotage
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby

lands

4 Scalding Tarn
3 Polluted Delta
4 Volcanic Island
3 Island

Unlike in Legacy, you won't have the ability to Brainstorm, Treasure Cruise away in the early turns, but it has some serious upside in Vintage in that it can't be Mental Missteped or Misdirected. You can also delve to pay for Sphere effects, and it's unlikely that your opponent will cast, or even be able to cast, Chalice of the Void on 8.

I lost a match to a Terra Nova list and beat up on two blue decks, drawing the Treasure Cruise in two games against an Azorius Stoneforge Mystic deck and in at least one game against Terra Nova. It cost one or two every time that I cast it, and, after playing with it once, I absolutely want that second copy.

It's tough to justify playing 3-4 in Vintage due to both the shortage of Brainstorms and the fact that there is an (un)healthy number of games that end before you can do anything with Treasure Cruise other than pitch it to Force of Will. That said, Merchant Scroll is pretty slow/kind of sucks and I'm on board with cutting it for the second Treasure Cruise, then turning the Fire // Ice into the fourth Lightning Bolt.

While I like Treasure Cruise in this deck specifically, it's harder to justify in black Vintage decks. Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor already find you whatever you need, and removing cards from your graveyard weakens Yawgmoth's Will. I might just cut Merchant Scroll for Treasure Cruise in any deck playing Merchant Scroll, but beyond that, I haven't figured out exactly how many copies and in what decks Treasure cruise is warranted.

Modern: Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time

My first thought on Modern with Khans was to shoehorn Dig Through Time into Scapeshift and Splinter Twin.

Meanwhile, Sam Black arguably led the format en route to its next ban when he unveiled this list to the world:

Ascendancy Combo

creatures

2 Arbor Elf
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Sylvan Caryatid

spells

3 Jeskai Ascendancy
4 Cerulean Wisps
3 Manamorphose
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Glittering Wish
1 Grapeshot
4 Serum Visions
4 Sleight of Hand
3 Treasure Cruise

lands

2 Breeding Pool
4 Mana Confluence
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
2 Verdant Catacombs
2 Windswept Heath
1 Dryad Arbor

sideboard

1 Meddling Mage
1 Jeskai Ascendancy
1 Wheel of Sun and Moon
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Guttural Response
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Manamorphose
1 Rakdos Charm
1 Simic Charm
4 Swan Song
1 Firespout
1 Maelstrom Pulse

Again, I haven't played with or against this deck yet, but I can't help but feel that cries for a ban might be premature.

The biggest argument against the deck is the capability to kill on turn two, which violates the turn four intention of the format. It seems to me that there are a lot of hate cards like Eidolon of the Great Revel and Ethersworn Canonist that give this deck nightmares, but that was comparably true when Seething Song was banned. At any rate, I'm not the guy who bans the cards and I don't have the experience to say whether this deck is too good or even good at all. All I can say is that it has already put up very strong results and it's something you should be ready to play with or against at your next Modern tournament.

On the topic of my own brews, after the uninspired idea of playing good draw spells in combo decks, it occurred to me that Thought Scour combines excellently with Treasure Cruise. There are a lot of other spells to put in a deck containing these cards and a lot of strategic directions to go. For my money, if these guys are good enough for Legacy in a deck without Wasteland, they're easily good enough for Modern:

You're also obligated to play Snapcaster Mage, because it's still Modern. I don't know how many lands you need to play, what the exact cantrip suite looks like, or if you can afford to play four Snacpaster Mage and four Young Pyromancer. And which of the two you trim. What I do know is that the biggest thing keeping Delver from being a major contender was losing steam as the game goes long. Stellar card draw changes that. It's also notable that having access to four Ancestral Recalls helps to combat the card disadvantage of Vapor Snag.

It is awkward that Remand can really punish spells with delve, but the upside is so high that it just seems like it has to be worth it. Relic of Progenitus is also a very popular Modern card, but there's no way that jamming all the Treasure Cruises isn't worth at least trying.

With Khans officially on Magic Online I can assure you that I will be giving this type of deck the old college try.

Standard: Murderous Cut

I haven't made up my mind on Sidisi just yet, but I know that Nemesis of Mortals and Nighthowler are sweet. Glenn Jones has been working on the Golgari self-mill deck and tweeted this list earlier last week:

Golgari Self-mill

creatures

4 Elvish Mystic
4 Satyr Wayfinder
4 Sylvan Caryatid
2 Rakshasa Deathdealer
4 Nyx Weaver
4 Nighthowler
2 Herald of Torment
1 Mogis's Marauder
4 Nemesis of Mortals
1 Soul of Innistrad

spells

4 Commune with Nature
4 Murderous Cut
1 Whip of Erebos

lands

4 Temple of Malady
4 Llanowar Wastes
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Mana Confluence
9 Forest

I played a similar list at a local Standard tournament this week and I liked the concept of the deck, thinking it needs some fine-tuning. I pushed two of the Murderous Cuts to the sideboard.

I was wrong. Murderous Cut and Nemesis of Mortals enable you to do things for less mana than you should be able to. That is the strength of this deck, and I can't imagine playing this deck without four of both going forward. Being able to play a fatty and an unconditional removal spell while your opponent could very well still only be playing one spell a turn is incredibly powerful.

My only losses on the night were to Jeskai Tempo when I was on the draw. I won both games where I was on the play and lost all four when I was on the draw.

From the handful of games I have played, I believe a tuned list of this deck will be a real contender. For more on the deck, check out Glenn's article about it. He goes over everything with a lot of depth and the read is definitely worth it if you're into fat monsters at a discounted rate.

The other major observations I have from playing the deck were that Sylvan Caryatid sucked and that Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is awesome. This deck might even want to just play all four Urborgs.

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M15 copies of Urborg have more or less plateaued right around $5 and the decline on Planar Chaos copies is slowing fast. If Goblin Rabblemaster's price is any indication of the supply level of M15 rares, I would say that Urborg is a great pickup right now. It's casual appeal is as high as it ever was and it's at least a three-of in what is likely to be a competitive Standard deck.

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The tl;dr today is that ways to "cheat" on mana are excellent and we all should know this by now. Khans of Tarkir really delivered after what many considered to be a disappointing Theros block. In the near future, I suspect you'll either be playing with or to beat Treasure Cruise.

Every format is being shaken up in relatively substantial ways, and putting work in to fully understand how to win a world where the graveyard is more useful than ever will prove very rewarding.

Thanks for reading.
-Ryan Overturf
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The Pro Tour is almost upon us. Just a few more days and we'll be watching the pros sling some brand new spells across the table in a brand new format.

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Of course, all events are more enjoyable when you have either a rooting interest or at least some knowledge of what to expect. Fantasy Football, for instance, has done wonders for my enjoyment of the NFL. And following the pro Magic scene is no different.

If you're trying to quickly get up to speed to follow along this weekend, this article on the mothership is a great place to start.

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Insider: [MTGO] Everything But Khans of Tarkir

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In the long list of differences between paper Magic and MTGO, a list that I find longer every time I think about it, we can include speculations around the release of new sets.

As far as I know, pre-ordering is a notion that doesn't exist on MTGO. In the digital world of Magic you have to wait for the prerelease events to start, you can't pre-order a playset one month in advance. For Khans of Tarkir it all started last week on MTGO.

With no possibility of pre-ordering, everything starts with a Big Bang with the digital cards. During the first days prices are extremely high due to a combined effect of a very limited supply and a pretty high demand from Constructed deck builders.

Prices decrease rapidly as boosters are opened by the thousands and cards start flooding the market. The majority of the rares will slowly head to an absolute bottom of ~0.05 Tix that should be reached around December. This downward trend is also mostly true with mythics. Only one or two mythics per set at most won't head down after their release and until the following winter.

While tempting, speculating on a fall set is a rather risky strategy. At best if you are a very talented metagame reader and can anticipate the Pro Tour results, which decks are the real deal and which are flukes, you may have a shot at making some Tix.

Don't Fall for the Fall Set

After three and a half years of investment on MTGO I came to realize that when a new fall set is released on MTGO the goal is not to focus on this particular set but to actually focus on previous sets. This is also mostly true for the following sets of the block, but in my experience there's definitely more money to be lost than gained with the fall set.

Rare Prices Are Going to Dip for Months

Fall sets are the most drafted sets on MTGO. Khans of Tarkir is going to be drafted as the newest set and as a triple booster format for about four months. By comparison M15 was the newest set for only two months. The 2nd and 3rd set of a regular block, even if smaller sets, are usually drafted with a 1-1-2 or 1-2-3 draft structure, which still supplies a lot of the first set cards.

The supply for Khans of Tarkir is therefore going to be heavy and constant for dozen of weeks. Khans of Tarkir supply will finally slow down only when players are getting bored and switching to M15 or THS/BNG/JOU for better EV or for a different draft format.

This implies an inevitable pressure on prices. Even for in-demand rares prices will go down for a while. Not even Snapcaster Mage, not even the RTR shock lands or Deathrite Shaman or Abrupt Decay or Thoughtseize sustained their price, let alone saw a price increase during the first two to four months. Nor will the fetchlands escape this price hammering.

With Theros and its Pro Tour, which was the first Standard Pro Tour right after the format rotation, a couple of rares resisted the trend for a little bit. Hero's Downfall started at ~4 Tix, followed by a nice spike at ~10 Tix about a week after the PT, went back to earth three weeks later and finally kept losing steam until last summer when the black instant was priced at ~1.5 Tix.

Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Thoughtseize also resisted a bit the declining trend for a couple of days. No rare from Theros was found more expensive in December than two or three weeks after release.

One of my beginner's mistakes back in 2011 during Innistrad days was to acquire rares within the first months and trying to anticipate a rebound from future winners. I notably bought Snapcaster Mage at 12 Tix and Bloodgift Demon at 1 Tix. Needless to say I didn't make money of these "specs".

...So Will Most Mythic Prices

Rares can't fight the massive flow of supply the first months. Mythics are a little less sensitive to supply pressure--nonetheless the majority of the fifteen mythics in a new fall set are bound to lose value over the first months after release. Only a few exceptions will gain significant value before December, such as Sphinx's Revelation, Geist of Saint Traft and Olivia Voldaren.

When looking at the Mythic indexes of Innistrad, Return to Ravnica and Theros between October and December you can see that they are mostly flat. Meaning that if you have a small numbers of gainers all the other mythics are losers in order to balance the average.

Because mythics have less supply around than rares, tournament results, and more particularly Pro Tour results, may influence mythic prices trends. Last year Pro Tour Theros was the first time a Standard Pro Tour was held right after the release of a fall set and more specifically right after the rotation of the Standard format.

This change in the Pro Tour schedule weighted on Theros mythics prices. Price of mythics from Innistrad and Return to Ravnica were not influenced by a Pro Tour. Even for the one that gained value (Sphinx's Revelation or Geist of Saint Traft) prices had about a month to settle down from their release heights.

Theros was released on MTGO only one week before the Pro Tour. Multiple forces battled then to control Theros mythic prices. Low supply pushed prices up, low demand pushed prices down for some mythics, hype from Pro Tour results skyrocketed prices even higher, and finally the flow of supply strongly pushed prices down again.

In the end Master of Waves saw a big spike from 7-8 Tix to 24 Tix in about 48 hours and crashed to 8 Tix soon after. Even as dominant as this merfolk was at PT Theros its price didn't survive the PT spike and actually slowly declined until last June. Here again, I lost some Tix in the mix.

Because of the incoming Pro Tour this weekend, prices of mythics from Khans of Tarkir are going to be all over the place and hyped for several days. This is the perfect storm to lose Tix when supply and demand are changing quickly and when the frenzy of a Pro Tour is added to the mixture. After the Pro Tour, prices are going to stabilize, and similarly to Theros mythics, Khans of Tarkir mythics should be at their lowest, in average, in December.

For all the reasons mentioned here and because speculating on a fall set in the first two to four months after release holds a lot of uncertainty to me I will simply avoid any speculations/investments with Khans of Tarkir.

There is and will be plenty of other opportunities within the next weeks and months. Among them, M15 boosters, Return to Ravnica block rares and some mythics and Modern.

Thoughts on the Fetchlands

Besides all the newcomers, the reprint of the original Onslaught fetchlands is the big attraction from Khans of Tarkir. They should help this set keep some value over time as they will be in demand from all formats and all players. Could they keep a high price tag and maybe even see a price increase sooner than other rares? I don't think so.

Similarly to Return to Ravnica shocklands, Khans of Tarkir fetchlands will drop in value inevitably in the short term. Depending on their popularity at any given time they should rapidly reach a floor withing the 3-5 Tix range. And don't really expect them to break 6 Tix any time soon.

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Polluted Delta and Flooded Strand were the most expensive and popular, but they might not be now. Overgrown Tomb and Temple Garden got more expensive than Hallowed Fountain and Steam Vents in Return to Ravnica, and Watery Grave never had the success Sacred Foundry had in Gatecrash. Blue/x lands are not anymore a guaranty of anything these days.

As any other rares, I may consider them only in December and will be looking to acquire them around 3 Tix.

Dealing With the Pro Tour Results

Pro Tour Khans of Tarkir is finally around the corner and with it several investments made this summer with M15 and Theros block cards should come to maturation.

It all naturally depends on the PT results itself but there are a couple of things I'm going to be watching in the wake of this PT in terms of investments. There's more than the deck techs coverage and the winner's deck list.

I won't discuss potential spikes here. There's always a play to do with unexpected cards that receive a lot of attention. Quick flips are always an option and I leave that up to you to decide if it's worth it or not.

Selling Plans

I have already explained a little about my selling strategy on the forum or on some of my articles. What I plan to do this weekend and the following weeks is also based on my experience last year. You can find additional information or explanations on my Nine Months of Portfolio Management series with the articles dealing with M14 rares and mythics and RTR block rare and mythics.

If you don't have to sell everything right after the final of Pro Tour Khans of Tarkir the results should however influence your decisions on selling or holding each of your positions.

I'll be looking to sell two type of cards. Big winners and big losers.

This is pretty obvious, I'm looking to sell cards that benefit from the PT results, although I'm going to make sure I give these cards some extra time to grow if they don't really spike right after the PT. Several cards including Goblin Rabblemaster, Courser of Kruphix or Elspeth, Sun's Champion are anticipated to perform well at this PT and during the coming Standard season, their price peak might be in two months only.

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I would be more prompt to sell if the price increase looks more like a spike/hype than an organic growth.

Garruk, Caller of Beast saw a big increase in about two weeks last year, whereas Jace, Architect of Thought saw a steady price increase until December.

About the losers, I meant by that cards that would make a big flop or would be totally unseen while expected at Pro Tour Khans of Tarkir. Last year, Archangel of Thune, Kalonian Hydra and mostly Chandra, Pyromaster didn't perform as expected. I sold Chandra and the archangel soon after the PT last year but got stuck with the hydra that kept losing value.

This year I'll make sure I don't keep losers in my portfolio. This year I could see Garruk, Apex Predator not performing well after being in the 7-8 Tix range for two months. I won't hesitate to sell it, even with losses, if this black/green Garruk doesn't do anything.

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Finally, concerning cards that haven't moved much from this past summer and that are not going to be heavily played at the PT, I would be inclined to keep them as they are still close to their bottom and still have their chances if the metagame gets more favorable for them. I think about the Theros temples for instance, not all of them might get played this weekend. Later in the season they might. Several M15 rares could be in that case too.

Buying Plans

Aside from spikes, there might be some nice opportunities to capture. Remember Desecration Demon and Pack Rat? The demon was already inflated when Pro Tour Theros came but it was a nice surprise for the rats. Pack Rat was a bulk card before the PT, then went up to about 1 Tix a week after the PT and it finally took more than a month for this card to become a Standard staple and be worth over 2 Tix.

These buying opportunities may be very narrow and you have to look for good decks that didn't necessarily have a strong finish. If you are able to spot these cards they may represent a very profitable investment. A lot of Theros block cards are potential gems, only a few of them might make it. It's up to the pros and their decks. Trying to get some info from the pros and deck building teams may help you screen for potential candidates; stay tuned!

 

Thank you for reading,

Sylvain Lehoux

How WOTC Responds to MTGO Breaking

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Magic: The Gathering Online version 4 is a running punchline in the community lately. A PTQ breaking on Sunday just hammered home this point. After four players in the top eight draft reportedly had a submission error that caused them to play 80-card decks, rumors started flying that WOTC was trying to "fix" the event. The only problem is that it had already finished.

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This photo was also making the rounds, allegedly originating from the winner of the event, claiming that MTGO Digital Product Manager Mike Turian had called his cellphone and asked him to replay the top eight. Yes—WOTC asked the winner of a PTQ to relinquish his prize and play the games again.

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The absurdity of that request is baffling, but Twitter was on it.

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With some variation in the specific details, nearly everyone in the community is arguing that the screw-up by WOTC should be on WOTC. Meanwhile, we had Worth Wollpert, Executive Producer of MTGO, arguing with folks about whether there were three or four players impacted by this bug ("not that it matters"):

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Thankfully, Worth followed up with an article on Daily MTG indicating that the original winner would maintain his prize regardless of what happened in the top eight redraft—which is scheduled nearly a month from now, during Grand Prix Nashville, a team event that at least some of these top eight competitors had planned to attend. It's nice to see that WOTC isn't trying to pull a prize already won, but if you thought the company would put in a little effort to find a mutually agreeable time for these players who were negatively impacted by this bug...well, you'd be wrong, wouldn't you?

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Insider: Stoking the Flames

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Greetings, Speculators!

Who says you can't write an entire article about a single card?

The Card in Question

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I'm known for clever puns but the title of this article is not among them. I literally just want to write about what's up with Stoke the Flames and what it means. I think there is a little more going on than is immediately apparent and it bears looking into. Maybe we can't learn a little bit about the next coming of Stoke the Flames and get out ahead of the next one.

What Getting Ahead Means

This is a card that hit $0.50 even on a website where you can lose a dime selling a card for $0.50. So what the holy hell is happening? I think there are several contributing factors at work. I don't feel like ranking them in terms of importance, so I will rank them in the order I think of them.

1) It's a Good Card

Stoke the Flames does four damage to a creature or player. This gives it lots of potential utility. For example, did you know that a resolved Stoke the Flames will kill an opponent at the following life totals?

  • 3
  • 1
  • 2
  • 4
  • 8 ( Furnace of Rath variant may be necessary)
  • 0
  • 5 [citation needed]

That seems very useful for a red mage.

Also, Stoke the Flames kills the following creatures

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Sometimes you only have two mana up and need to get the job done and the convoke can make the spell castable. Not only that, sometimes you are forced by Goblin Rabblemaster to attack with goblins you'd rather not always attack with, and tapping them to convoke can make sure they stay home.

A) It's in M15

No one really bought much M15. Core sets typically don't set sales records and they are being phased out. Not only that, it was never particularly appealing to draft it, which is a secondary way that cards from core sets end up in binders and collections.

There was a lot against it, frankly. At the beginning of M15 draft, a lot of stores still had boxes of Conspiracy left. Not everyone hoarded Conspiracy--quite a few stores blew through their entire supply because it was so much fun to draft. If you have the choice between drafting Conspiracy and drafting Core set, sometimes for the same price, there is no discussion to even be had. You snap draft Conspiracy, not close. As long as there were packs of sets that weren't M15 to draft, M15 didn't get drafted much.

By the time all of Conspiracy was drafted off, there was so much hype about Khans of Tarkir that people couldn't wait to not have to draft M15 anymore. While some sets will still get drafted after new sets come out, M15 was dropped like MTV dropped music videos. Again, none of this is a value judgment on M15 as a limited format (it wasn't bad, as core sets go, frankly) but it does help to explain why there are fewer loose copies of staple M15 uncommons floating around.

The rest of M15 wasn't remarkable. It speaks to the quality of the set that people would rather live in a world where Goblin Rabblemaster flirts with $20 than open more boxes of the stupid set.

There are no real other uncommons to speak of in the set and cards like Hornet Queen and Genesis Hydra are only starting to even be bought on their own merits, let alone used as the impetus for buying more packs. Being an uncommon in an underwhelming set can help your upside because people are not super willing to bust the packs when they can just buy the rares they need.

I) MODO Ruined Finance

There's no question that Magic Online is a bag of ass. Even people who are paid to produce MODO videos aren't because it's so hard to use, so broken and there are so few people playing on MODO right now.

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To an extent, people don't want to play against that stupid Jeskai Ascendancy deck and that's a reason Modern is not firing eight-mans reliably, but let's not discount how bad the client is.

Version 4 seemed fine in Beta and I was looking forward to them busting a bottle of champagne against its hull and gently setting it off on its voyage. Instead, there were major holes in the hull just above the waterline, and when the boat is loaded to capacity with players, it begins to sink and the need to bail it out constantly becomes readily apparent.

People don't want to play Magic Online as much as they used to. To an extent, how bad MODO is right now is in M15's favor a tiny bit.

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Jeff's making some good points this week. I swear my Twitter stream is more than just him.

But other than the fact that they are doing a small thing to add more M15 packs to the pool, they're doing a lot more to hinder it by making people not want to play M15 drafts on MODO.

It's funny--irrespective of their colossal failures, even some things MODO is successful at is hindering M15. M15 is draftable on Magic Online but when it started, people had the option to do Tempest block flashback drafts. So you could crack a 100 -tix Wasteland at uncommon or you could get a Chasm Skulker. After that concluded, people were treated to Innistrad block flashback drafts. That's recent enough to still be fresh in everyone's minds, but having credible competition from fun formats is not going to bode well for M15 limited on MODO.

It gets worse.

Even if M15 were jumping on MODO and everyone were super jazzed to be busting those virtual packs and battlin' with Jorubai Murk Lurkers and Kird Chieftains, there is a simple truth that affects all of MODO finance right now, not just M15.

The trading system is broken.

With no convenient mechanism for trading cards between players and between players and bots, it's incredibly difficult to put together a redemption set. Couple that with the fact that the price of redemption recently increased from $5 to $15 which is not a big deal for a good set but most certainly is for a bad one. Couple that with a reduced window of time that people care at all about even bothering to try to redeem M15 on MODO and you have a real lack of new M15 cards ending up in the market.

Whereas most sets will see dedicated MODO redeemers burning the midnight oil to turn those sets over and sell them on eBay or to dealers, you're seeing that to a much lesser extent with M15. I feel like M16 is very likely to be the same way. Redemption is a significant avenue to injecting cards into the market and enforcing the overall price of a set, and with this mechanism broken, prices are bound to do some funny things.

False Signals

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Some who caught a few flirtations with 4 full tix on MODO thought that the price might catch up in paper, provided the metagames lined up between paper and MODO the way they mostly always do. Ordinarily a spike on MODO is indicative of a potential spike in paper, but with MODO as broken and terrible as it is right now, even veteran financiers weren't prepared to call this card the next $4 uncommon.

Ironically, fledgeling financiers latched onto the news and there was a bit of buying activity on TCG Player following a reddit posting about the MODO price spike. This may have been a self-fulfilling prophecy to an extent, but that effect was obscured by all of the other factors that are conspiring to keep the price of Stoke the Flames high.

Not Without Precedent

It isn't just these factors that are keeping the price of Stoke the Flames at such a high price. Narrower cards have seen pretty decent price points in the past.

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While not quite the $4 we're seeing now, Boros Charm also isn't quite as likely to be as ubiquitous in Standard as Stoke, not to mention the fact that Gatecrash was opened a bunch more than M15, if only because it was drafted for a longer period of time (though not three packs at a time for its entire run the way M15 was).

The reprint didn't help Boros Charm a ton, but it didn't come until well after Boros Charm established its peak price. I'm not here to discuss which looks better long-term, though Charm likely gets the nod due to its ability to do four damage for two mana without tapping any creatures and its useful other modes. Burn spells that hit creatures aren't really at a premium in the narrow selection of decks in Modern likely to run Boros Charm, otherwise people would play fewer Lava Spikes and more Volcanic Hammers.

There are a lot of other examples of uncommons that peaked at a much higher value than anticipated. Dismember comes to mind, though the sites that provide handy graphical data don't price back that far.

What to Do With Stoke?

Well, that's an easy one. Sell those before December, because in December...

...this is happening. The FNM promo for the month of December is going to dump some more Stokes onto the market, and sexy ones, too. FNM promos didn't do much to help keep the price of Dismember or Experiment One high and it's not going to do Stoke the Flames any favors, either.

While a ton of Stoke the Flames aren't likely to get dumped in from MODO redemption or people busting M15 packs, I don't know that there is much growth potential for Stoke at this point. Save 10% for the next guy and all that, and try to cash out now if you want my advice.

The Next Stoke in Flames

I haven't seen any spoilers for the next set, but there is a possibility of the next $4 uncommon being in it so we should be ready to spot it while it's still preselling for $0.50-$1 like the other uncommons. I would look for the following factors.

  • Is it likely to be a four-of in the deck that plays it?
  • Do its colors narrow it to a small range of decks or can it be played across many wedges?
  • Does it do what it does better than any other card in Standard?
  • Does it have Modern or Legacy applicability?
  • Will MODO still suck then? (Yes, it will)

If I spot anything as the spoilers come out for the next set, I'll likely stick my neck out and write an article about it. In the mean time, buy all the bulk you can. I get shipped cards like Stoke in Flames in bulk all the time and free money is always appreciated.

Brian Wong Steps Down as Limited Resources Cohost

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For almost a year and a half, Brian Wong has joined Marshall Sutcliffe every week to record Limited Resources, one of the most popular MTG-related podcasts being produced today. As of Friday, October 3, that partnership is no more. Citing personal reasons, Wong stepped down as weekly cohost of the cast, though he does offer some hope to his fans:

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In no uncertain terms, Wong was a fantastic cohost for LR. His first episode, "Card Evaluation with Brian Wong," was a groundbreaking piece of content in the world of Magic strategy. Everyone even remotely interested in getting better at Magic, particularly Limited formats, should be sure to listen to that episode.

Wong taught listeners to draft control and beatdown decks. The combined knowledge of Sutcliffe and Wong combined beautifully to give format newcomers an overview of Cube.  If you ever wanted to get really good at sideboarding in Limited, Wong's discussion of sideboard strategy is a must-listen. And Wong didn't just help us get better at Magic—as his recent signoff compilation will prove, he made us laugh, too.

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It's hard to understate how much Wong will be missed by fans of the show. But I'm not looking at his departure with a sky-is-falling mentality. Sutcliffe has demonstrated his proclivity for choosing strong cohosts to join him every week, and he himself is a large reason for the show's success, of course.

So who will be Wong's replacement? In a perfect world, I would love to see Luis Scott-Vargas into the role, but I imagine he has a little too much on his plate. Jon Loucks is available again, but having just started the Constructed Resources podcast, he may not want to split his focus. Kenji Egashira (aka @NumotTheNummy) has had guest spots on the show before and is certainly a prime candidate. And, of course, it could be someone we've never heard of, just like Wong was for so many people before May 2013.

Whoever is chosen, I'm sure LR has a bright future—especially given that we'll hear from O-BWong Kenobi again.

Magic Online Breaks. Again.

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Bugs happen, and we all know that. But Magic Online just can't catch a break recently.

The latest bad news? The Top 8 of a Sealed PTQ breaking. Half of the Top 8 ended up submitting 80-card decks because they were unable to save the deck they actually wanted to present. You ended up with a winner who wouldn't want to give up his spot (nor should he), but a full half of the Top 8 who didn't even get their chance to win the draft.

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It's a rough situation. On the one hand, bugs in online games happen, and that's unpreventable. On the other hand, the rap on Version 4 of Magic Online is so negative at this point that no one is willing to overlook this as something unavoidable from time to time. And all the while, the product is hurt, as is consumer confidence in the product.

The next step? I don't know. The last time Magic Online broke so bad they closed down high-level events on the client for weeks. Is something similar in store?

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Insider: My Two Strikes and Lessons Learned

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A couple weeks ago, I was asked to write up a piece analyzing the strength of Jeskai cards in Khans of Tarkir. Ignorantly I proceeded with my piece, declaiming how poorly synergized the shard was. Mantis Rider to me was an underwhelming 3/3 flier and Jeskai Ascendancy was a do-nothing, clunky enchantment not worth playing.

Technically I could have been more wrong, but not by much.

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Two Jeskai tempo decks each running a full set of Mantis Rider appeared in the New Jersey SCG Open Top 8. One of the two lists even won the event!

To add insult to injury, Jeskai Ascendancy has been one of the most speculated upon spells from Khans for its potential in Modern. While the card wasn’t included in the list above, it still would have been a tremendous buy two weeks ago.

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Clearly, the Jeskai shard has more potential than I initially thought…

Where I Went Wrong – Part 1

Let’s start with Jeskai Ascendancy. When I wrote my review a couple weeks ago, I did suggest Modern was the only format where I saw this card as being playable. But I was too myopic in my view of this card’s playability, wanting to force it into a B/W Tokens build. What I hadn’t considered was the possibility of this card actually defining a whole archetype. But clearly that’s what is happening.

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I completely overlooked a Jeskai deck running a bunch of cantrips, mana dorks and Jeskai Ascendancy to completely “go off” combo style. Talk about a gutsy deck!

It’s definitely important to acknowledge that this list, while very fun and novel, is a bit of a glass cannon. Could you see this list doing well through a load of disruption? Jund decks, for example, seem to have a lot of weapons that would be highly disruptive. Discard spells and creature removal must be potent for the above list, though I could see something like Eidolon of Rhetoric.

Glass cannon aside, the deck is obviously capable of winning. Time will tell whether or not the card is truly breakable, but suddenly I am a believer rather than a naysayer.

Where I Went Wrong: Part 2

It turns out I was wrong and everyone else was right on Mantis Rider. I couldn’t see a deck wanting to cast this spell on turn three or turn four, simply because I couldn’t envision a strong Jeskai list. Kevin Jones clearly proved just how wrong I was.

Two things slipped by my attention when I initially evaluated this card. First, I didn’t realize just how dominant Goblin Rabblemaster was! I thought maybe it was a one-hit wonder, fitting a singular decklist well but not really belonging in others.

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This goblin is far more robust and potent than I had originally realized. After seeing how many copies of the card made Top 8’s in the past couple of SCG Opens, I now have to acknowledge my poor judgment. A deck does not have to be called “Rabble Red” in order to benefit from Goblin Rabblemaster. It seems almost any deck with red wants to play this card in Standard. That would certainly explain the $20 price tag!

My second miss was the fact that a Jeskai deck could actually be quite aggressive in Standard. I always acknowledge the strength of Red-based aggressive strategies in a new standard format. My vision this time around was a mono-red build playing burn spells available alongside Eidolon of the Great Revel and the like.

Wrong. Jeskai has access to a bevy of removal and burn spells to pave the way for its aggressively costed beaters Goblin Rabblemaster, Mantis Rider and Seeker of the Way.

The result: a robust Jeskai list that won the New Jersey SCG Open – not to mention the new price tag on Mantis Rider.

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Three Strikes and I’m Out

I’m sure my loyal readers can find plenty more examples where I’ve been wrong of late. But I’m going to give myself the benefit of the doubt and stop my count at strike two, if only to make for a good final section title.

I have learned an essential, valuable lesson from this exercise. When I was asked to write an article assessing the playability of a Khans of Tarkir shard, I felt I had the knowledge to do so. I became overconfident and cocky, and I wrote the piece completely in a vacuum without researching what others thought. Instead I merely documented my initial reactions, which were clearly incorrect.

This experience has emphasized how critical our community is to a successfully lucrative hobby in MTG Finance. Some players are probably strong enough at deckbuilding to have anticipated the lists above, as Ryan Overturf mentioned in the comments of my initial revievw. For me, I recognize this is not one of my strengths. I’ve never been one to identify powerful synergies coming from a new set. My strategy has always been to follow the community’s sentiments closely to determine what others are deeming playable.

That’s how I stumbled upon Angel of Serenity a couple years ago. I noticed people on Twitter talking about the card – and not just any people. Professional players and well-respected MTG Finance personalities were both touting the power of the card, leading me to one of my best calls in MTG Finance.

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The strategy clearly worked well, so why did I deviate? Why did I neglect the community’s opinion this time by writing up a review based on my own instincts?

Laziness is not a valid excuse, but it’s the only honest one. I was a bit too overconfident, blind to my own weaknesses. I should have recognized that I am not an expert brewer (nor am I even a consistent player these days). My skills are best applied to analysis of macro trends in Magic, such as the utility of mana-fixing lands in a new Standard environment and the cyclical evolution of Dual Land values. These are realms where I am more comfortable to follow my instincts, and it is where I should focus my expertise.

For any other topics – especially those related to a new Standard format or Modern brew – I now recognize how necessary it is to follow what others in the community are pushing rather than developing my own theses. This is a lesson everyone else can learn from without the (potential) embarrassment of my confession.

I encourage you all to take a step back and assess your strengths and weaknesses in MTG Finance. In areas you are capable, please be a voice on Twitter and the QS Forums for others to learn from. In areas where you are less confident, don’t try to do it all yourself. Learn from others in the community and follow trends to identify the best profitable opportunities.

Perhaps if I had done this more recently, I’d be sitting on more than zero copies of Mantis Rider and four copies of Jeskai Ascendancy, despite even the Insider email alert that went out. My temples will make me solid money, but I missed out on a couple of the largest opportunities we’ve had in a while because of my ignorance.

The Pro Tour is nearly upon us, and I’ll be following results very closely to identify what cards are trending. Trust me when I say, I will not make this mistake twice. Hopefully after reading this article, you can avoid making my mistake even once.

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Sigbits

  • I thought preordering Mantis Rider for a couple bucks was a poor decision. Now the card is sold out at SCG at $7.99. Talk about serious price appreciation!
  • The following Temples are sold out at SCG with these respective prices: Temple of Malice: $7.99, Temple of Plenty: $9.99, Temple of Epiphany: $7.99, Temple of Malady: $11.99, Temple of Mystery: $3.99, Temple of Silence: $3.99. Some others are close to sold out. If you need any of these for Standard play, I’d suggest getting them immediately. If you are looking to make a few bucks, try and see if you can trade for these at their “sold out prices”, as I only see them going higher in the coming months.
  • Could Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker join the elite $50+ Planeswalker club, alongside Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Liliana of the Veil? It is very possible – the card is showing up in winning Standard decklists and it’s a casual gem. Seriously, who doesn’t love the combination of Planeswalkers and Dragons? He’s currently sold out at SCG with a retail price of $39.99. I see $49.99 coming and only time will tell if enough copies are opened to keep the price from going higher. My guess: he’s not a 4-of and he’s not oppressively strong in multiple formats, so I don’t think he goes higher than $50.

Magic Satire Done Right

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I know there's a ton of you out there who like a little satire in your life. Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert are massively popular for a reason, and I anxiously watch every episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. Also, you know, The Onion is a thing.

And now we have that in Magic.

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All credit goes to The Meadery for keeping things fresh and funny at the same times.

After a weekend chock full of SCG Opens, FNMs, and other stuff, it’s clear Standard has been completely solved and there is simply no point in attempting to innovate within the format. Local brewers everywhere are throwing their finished decks into the garbage – sleeves and all – oppressed by the knowledge that there is no point in trying anymore.

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Will Jeskai Ascendancy be Banned?

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This thing started off as a bulk rare. Soon, there were whispers of it maybe being playable. Then there were rumors it could actually be good in Standard. Next, it did well at Opens that had people talking about it for real. Soon, there were shouts of it being Modern-playable.

Now the question is finally being asked: Will Jeskai Ascendancy be banned?

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This seems to be the real deal in both Standard and Modern. Example Standard lists like this one have been holding up well, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them show up at the Pro Tour next week.

But it's one thing to be good in Standard. It's another to go 16-0 in games played in Modern on MTGO, as Sam Pardee did this week.

Will it be banned? I think we're a long way from that. But Pardee pulled off a Turn 2 kill in those games, and won eight of them on Turn 3. That's pretty astounding, and far faster and more consistent than Wizards is comfortable with, I'm sure. Personally, I think if anything goes it will be Glittering Wish. Not only does it make this particular deck way better, it makes every future combo deck similar to this one better. Is Ascendancy really that bad if you only have four copies of Ascendancy in your deck? It's still good I'm sure, but it's far less consistent than the current version with Wish that gets to effectively run seven copies.

In the end, the question that remains is whether or not the metagame can adapt to handle the deck, or if it really is too absurd to exist.

I don't know the answer to that question. What do you think?

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